>>>>> On Wed, 16 Jun 2021, Michal Prívozník wrote: >>> 1. Should we be proactively changing the default network in IRC clients >>> (provided they have one) from Freenode to Libera.chat >> >> Yes. IMHO Freenode is no longer a reasonable default.
> Why should we mangle with packages this way? I mean, to me Gentoo was > one of the few distros that allowed real choice for users (systemd vs > openrc, selinux or !selinux, etc.). We shouldn't be making choices on > behalf of users. The best we can do is to open issues for whatever IRC > client we have in portage to switch from freenode to something > different. This is merely about the _default_ network, not about taking away any choices from users. See my answer to question 2 (which you've conveniently omitted, therefore restoring it here): >>> 2. Should we be proactively *removing* Freenode from the network list >>> in IRC clients (provided they have one)? >> >> No (but also don't re-add it if upstream decided to remove it). > BTW: not everybody is switching from freenode to libera.chat. A default is never about everybody, but about providing a good configuration for the majority of users. Ulrich
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