On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 11:21:44PM +0000, David Leverton wrote:
> On 14 March 2012 22:51, Greg KH <gre...@gentoo.org> wrote:
> > Oh, that's simple, separate-/usr-without-initramfs will not work and
> > will not be supported :)
> 
> See, it's this "we're doing it this way because we know best and we
> say so" that upsets people.

Oh, and somehow "consensus" will work?  No, sorry, it will not.

How about the basic FACT that today, such systems do not work, and are
not supported by a wide range of packages we support today.

Yes, some people are "lucky" in that their systems don't have those
packages, but others are not.  The simple "I use a bluetooth keyboard"
is one such example.

So it's not a "we know best", it's a "it will not properly work
otherwise."

It is strange to watch people somehow think that if they complain
enough, or feel strongly enough, something is going to change here to
make this basic fact go away.

Now, to get back to what I said before, I'm done with this thread, it's
going nowhere, and it seems I'm just making it worse, my apologies.  For
penance, I'll adopt the next abandoned package someone throws at me, any
suggestions?

greg k-h

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