Ciaran McCreesh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > If they want to have sekrit meetings with sekrit handshakes, let
> > them. If enough people think this is not acceptable, they'll be gone
> > on the next election.
> 
> Which is all very well, but it's kind of hard to evaluate the
> effectiveness of Council members and the Council as a whole if they're
> doing things behind everyone's backs and making horrible threats to try
> to prevent people from publishing logs of their goings on...

Please evaluate the council's effectivness based on their achievements.
And no, secret meetings don't count towards that.

Seriously, i understand that the council should be as transparent as
possible, but there are issues that need some confidential handling.

> threatening to pull each others' access if anyone goes public with
> whatever it was that was discussed, *something* has to be done...

Um, that's hard to say without the thing in the open. I just trust the
involved parties to have enough insight to bring anything that would
harm gentoo to public scrunity (and following outcry).

> The details can remain private if necessary, but publishing a brief
> summary along the lines of "we discussed x and y and decided z" *has*

Um, wait. Council *decisions*, as long as they're affecting gentoo's
ways, must be out in the open. We won't end up with National Security
Letters to infra or something (and i trust there'll be an uproar, if it
ever reaches that point). Say, if the council decides to ice a project,
how can that be kept secret?
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