On 3/10/25 4:53 PM, Maciej Barć wrote:
> Hi!
> 
>> Although maybe it should be sci-ml.
> 
> Let's _not_ use *-ml since for us ml stands for OCaml (which comes from
> ML - "Meta langauge").
> 
> sci-ai, dev-ai, and app-ai (say, "app-ai/ollama"?) are nice IMO.


- please don't top-post

- Let's _not_ use *-ai since AI stands for generative artificial
  intelligence which most of these packages are not, even according to
  the intended use of the *-ai term in this thread

I don't understand your argument at all. "ml" is hardly a reserved
concept, and dev-ml exists precisely for "libraries and utilities
relevant to the ML programming language", which isn't going to get
confused with sci-ml/ for the same reason nobody would dream of
searching in sci-cpp/ for "scientific software written in C++", as the
emphasis is on *science* and naturally brings the concept of machine
learning to mind.

I could argue that "AI" is too confusing of a term to use because it is
the name of the pale-throated sloth (and because there are other
abbreviations that are DEEPLY not on topic for this mailing list). But
fortunately people possess the ability to recognize context, and will
recognize that Gentoo packages are not talking about members of the
animal kingdom. They will also recognize sci-machine-learning when they
see it.

Or, we could bite the bullet and stop clinging "short and witty two-word
categories".

Let's call it "sci-machine-learning/".

But obviously, whatever we call it shouldn't feel like deceptive
trickery to the people ***using*** the packages from this proposed new
category. So I oppose anything with the name "ai" in it, as it's way too
specific, unless it is strictly limited to e.g. ollama, which isn't
actually packaged in ::gentoo and isn't actually on topic as a result.



-- 
Eli Schwartz

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