Hi -

I’d like to raise a couple of related points.

> On Sep 3, 2026, at 6:03 PM, Julian Hyde <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> To solve this issue, we will need to make some compromises. I would like to 
> see this discussion ending in a vote — if necessary more than one — where 
> IPMC members put their opinions on record.

Culturally in Incubator VOTEs we treat a -1 (binding) as a VETO. This should 
not be the case. Please reread https://www.apache.org/foundation/voting.html 
carefully.

In that spirit many of the things that are wrong in one release should be fixed 
in the next release. In that spirit we created the DISCLAIMER-WIP and I think 
that this should become the standard DISCLAIMER.

We can make a clean release a clear graduation requirement.

What’s our goal here?

Best,
Dave

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