I like this. I had the (apparently accurate) impression that ASF membership was the usual route to podling mentorship. I'm very interested in mentorship generally and ways I can help out ASF - so they might someday intersect in the formal role of podling mentor. It is nice to see a path that is not gated on ASF membership.
Kenn On Tue, Nov 6, 2018 at 12:20 AM Justin Mclean <jus...@classsoftware.com> wrote: > Hi, > > I looked at the board resolution for the creation of the IPMC [1] and it > says nothing about how IPMC members should be added so from that I take it > that the IPMC can decide how it wants to do that. > > Currently the IPMC can vote people in (which is not so common) or an ASF > member can request it. I’m not sure where the ASF member requirement came > from and wasn’t able to find the discussion about this on the incubator > list. (If anyone knows please point me to it.) > > In theory an ASF member should have the knowledge and skills to mentor a > project, however I also think those who have gone through the incubating > process, have voted on releases and proposed or accepted new committers and > PMC members probably know just as much even if they are not ASF members. > They may not have as much experience but shovel at least know the basics. > > Now identifying everyone who has done this would not be be easy to > determine and the Venn diagram of them and people who want to be mentors is > probably small (but still significant in numbers). > > So I propose this: > > If someone has done several of the following: > - has been involved in an incubating project from start to finish > - has been a release manager > - has assembled LICENSE and NOTICE files > - has reviewed and voted on releases > - has proposed or accepted committers/PPMC members > > Then they can ask the IPMC to join to IPMC by sending an email to private@ > listing what they have been involved in. The IPMC would VOTE on them, and > there’s a chance they could be rejected, but given it’s a private vote I > don’t think any harm is done if that happens. Also people could nominate > other people who fit into this above group. > > I’d like to see this used for people who are wanting to be mentors, rather > than just having binding votes on releases. I don’t have an issue with the > later (and I think the IPMC currently does a decent job of catching any > issues with releases they come their way), but that’s what I’m trying to > solve with this proposal. i.e. We currently need more mentors and will need > even more as ASF scales up. > > The subject line is actually a lie. All this really changes is that people > can bring themselves or be brought to the attention of the IPMC, rather > than having the IPMC actively trying to find people from graduated projects > who then may or may not want to be IPMC members. > > We could start this off as an experiment. and take the first few people > who request it, and see how it goes with more experienced mentors observing > and/ or helping them. > > What do people and the IPMC think of this proposal? Good idea or not? > Could it work with some modifications? Is it not needed at all? > > Thanks, > Justin > > > 1. > https://svn.apache.org/repos/infra/websites/production/incubator/content/official/resolution.html > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org > >
