Sounds good to me. Can I start a vote, or is something a champion/mentor
would normally start? The project also does not have a champion--is that
necessary/would either of you be interested in being the champion?

Thanks,
- Steve

On 08/08/2017 10:59 PM, Dave Fisher wrote:
> Hi -
> 
> I agree. I'm willing to proceed with John and I as Mentors.
> 
> Regards,
> Dave
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Aug 8, 2017, at 7:10 PM, John D. Ament <johndam...@apache.org> wrote:
>>
>> Steve,
>>
>> At this point, I'd recommend we wrap the discussion and call for a vote.  
>> While ideally we want 3 mentors, we can get started with 2 and see how 
>> things progress.
>>
>> John
>>
>>> On Wed, Aug 2, 2017 at 3:55 PM Steve Lawrence 
>>> <stephen.d.lawre...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> Thanks John!
>>>
>>> On 08/02/2017 03:23 PM, John D. Ament wrote:
>>>> You can also count me in as a mentor.
>>>>
>>>> John
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, Aug 2, 2017 at 3:14 PM Steve Lawrence 
>>>> <stephen.d.lawre...@gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Understood. Thanks for the interest!
>>>>>
>>>>> - Steve
>>>>>
>>>>> On 08/02/2017 02:57 PM, Dave Fisher wrote:
>>>>>> Hi Steve,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It was not so much the lack of committers as it was the current
>>>>> diversity. That is not a blocker for entry to Incubation.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I am willing to be one of the Mentors. Once there are at least two more
>>>>> we can push forward.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>> Dave
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Aug 1, 2017, at 5:09 AM, Steve Lawrence <
>>>>> stephen.d.lawre...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Discussions have died down, and I think the consensus from the responses
>>>>>>> is that the issues are 1) the lack of committers and 2) the lack of a
>>>>>>> champion and mentors. We hope to address #1 and grow the community as
>>>>>>> part of incubation. Is anyone interested in being a champion or mentor
>>>>>>> and help us with #2?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>> - Steve
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 07/26/2017 04:06 PM, Chris Mattmann wrote:
>>>>>>>> This sounds like a very interesting project.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I don’t have the time to mentor at the moment but I will keep a close
>>>>> eye on it.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>>> Chris Mattmann
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 7/25/17, 11:53 AM, "McHenry, Kenton Guadron" <mche...@illinois.edu>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>    Hi Dave,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>    The developers that were at NCSA have moved on to other
>>>>> organizations.  While we still leverage Daffodil and are very much
>>>>> interested in seeing it move forward, development is currently done by the
>>>>> Tresys team.  Agreed on the synergy with Tika.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>    Kenton McHenry, Ph.D.
>>>>>>>>    Principal Research Scientist, Adjunct Assistant Professor of
>>>>> Computer Science
>>>>>>>>    Deputy Director of the Scientific Software & Applications Division
>>>>>>>>    National Center for Supercomputing Applications, University of
>>>>> Illinois at Urbana-Champaign
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>    On Jul 24, 2017, at 1:55 PM, Dave Fisher <dave2w...@comcast.net
>>>>> <mailto:dave2w...@comcast.net>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>    Hi Kenton,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>    Is there any reason that you and others from the NCSA are not
>>>>> Initial Committers? That would make this proposal stronger.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>    Regarding Apache Tika - it relies on other projects including
>>>>> Apache POI and Apache PDFBox. They are pragmatic about what is used. If
>>>>> Daffodil works to expand then I think that there would be good synergy
>>>>> between the projects. I know as a POI PMC member that the POI community 
>>>>> has
>>>>> significantly benefited from the Tika community some of whom are from 
>>>>> Mitre.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>    To date Tika has not emphasized structured data, although they do
>>>>> extract content from Excel and OpenOffice.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>    I am intrigued.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>    Regards,
>>>>>>>>    Dave
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>    On Jul 24, 2017, at 10:55 AM, McHenry, Kenton Guadron <
>>>>> mche...@illinois.edu<mailto:mche...@illinois.edu>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>    Yes, DFDL and its open source implementation Daffodil are more
>>>>> about file formats and getting access to the entirety of a file's contents
>>>>> in a consistent way through machine readable specifications.  The work has
>>>>> implications in the area of digital preservation allowing one to preserve
>>>>> these machine readable specifications rather than all the tools needed to
>>>>> open/save a file in order to work with it.  Imagine someone developing
>>>>> graphics software to work with 3D models and not having to worry about the
>>>>> hundreds of formats out there for 3D meshes (whether there are tools for
>>>>> opening the files and whether they can get access to those tools, whether
>>>>> the spec is available and worrying about how complex that spec is to
>>>>> implement, etc.), and simply building their code around the contents (e.g.
>>>>> vertices, faces, etc.).  One could come up with similar scenarios for 
>>>>> other
>>>>> data types (documents, images, videos, audio, depth data, numeric data).
>>>>> Ideally tools built supporting DFDL, could someday, support any format for
>>>>> that type without the developer having to worry about the details of how
>>>>> that data is represented within a file.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>    Kenton McHenry, Ph.D.
>>>>>>>>    Principal Research Scientist, Adjunct Assistant Professor of
>>>>> Computer Science
>>>>>>>>    Deputy Director of the Scientific Software & Applications Division
>>>>>>>>    National Center for Supercomputing Applications, University of
>>>>> Illinois at Urbana-Champaign
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>    On Jul 24, 2017, at 10:30 AM, Steve Lawrence <
>>>>> stephen.d.lawre...@gmail.com<mailto:stephen.d.lawre...@gmail.com><mailto:
>>>>> stephen.d.lawre...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>    I'll preface this saying that I don't have a ton of experience with
>>>>>>>>    Apache Tika. But based on my understanding, Tika and Daffodil do
>>>>> have
>>>>>>>>    somewhat similar goals, but reach them in different ways. For
>>>>> example,
>>>>>>>>    Tika requires that one writes /code/ to perform data extraction,
>>>>> usually
>>>>>>>>    relying on existing Java libraries to extract the desired metadata.
>>>>> The
>>>>>>>>    downside to this is that code can be buggy, and libraries might not
>>>>> even
>>>>>>>>    exist for formats of interest (especially common with legacy and
>>>>>>>>    military data).
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>    Daffodil, on the other hand, does not require one to write any code.
>>>>>>>>    Instead, one writes a DFDL Schema (similar to XML Schema, with DFDL
>>>>>>>>    annotations) that fully describes the data, which Daffodil then
>>>>> uses to
>>>>>>>>    convert the data to XML/JSON for extraction. So adding support for
>>>>> a new
>>>>>>>>    format means writing a new schema rather than new code. And less
>>>>> code
>>>>>>>>    generally means less bugs. Also, for secure systems that require
>>>>>>>>    certification, generally speaking, it is easier to certify a schema
>>>>> as
>>>>>>>>    compared to code.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>    We certainly don't believe that Daffodil could replace Tika, but it
>>>>> does
>>>>>>>>    have the potential to add new functionality to Tika for formats
>>>>> that do
>>>>>>>>    not have existing libraries. One of our goals is to look into
>>>>>>>>    integrating Daffodil support into tools like Tika. We'd love to hear
>>>>>>>>    from Tika devs if this is something they'd be interested in.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>    I'll also add that whereas Tika tends to focus primarily on
>>>>> metadata,
>>>>>>>>    DFDL schemas usually describe an entire file format down to the
>>>>> byte, so
>>>>>>>>    one can extract more than just meta data, including text and binary
>>>>>>>>    data. Further differentiating, Daffodil has support for serializing
>>>>> data
>>>>>>>>    (called unparse) from the XML/JSON representation, allowing one to
>>>>>>>>    transform or filter data as well. We don't believe this feature is
>>>>> all
>>>>>>>>    that applicable to Tika, but may be useful to other technologies
>>>>> such as
>>>>>>>>    filtering or data fuzzing technologies.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>    - Steve
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>    On 07/24/2017 10:59 AM, Mike Drob wrote:
>>>>>>>>    What is the relationship between Daffodil and something like Apache
>>>>> Tika's
>>>>>>>>    extraction engine?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>    On Mon, Jul 24, 2017 at 9:53 AM, Steve Lawrence <
>>>>>>>>    stephen.d.lawre...@gmail.com<mailto:stephen.d.lawre...@gmail.com
>>>>>> <mailto:stephen.d.lawre...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>    Dear Apache Incubator Community,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>    We would like to start a discussion around a proposal to bring
>>>>> Daffodil
>>>>>>>>    into the Apache Incubator. Daffodil is a implementation of the DFDL
>>>>>>>>    specification used to convert between fixed format data and
>>>>> XML/JSON.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>    The draft proposal can be found in the wiki at the following URL:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>    https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/DaffodilProposal
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>    We do not yet have a champion or mentors, but it was recommended
>>>>> that we
>>>>>>>>    create a proposal and send it to this list to potentially find those
>>>>>>>>    that might be interested. The text for the draft proposal is found
>>>>>>>>    below. We look forward to your input.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>    Thanks,
>>>>>>>>    -Steve
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>    = Daffodil Proposal =
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>    == Abstract ==
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>    Daffodil is an implementation of the Data Format Description
>>>>> Language
>>>>>>>>    (DFDL) used to convert between fixed format data and XML/JSON.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>    == Proposal ==
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>    The Data Format Description Language (DFDL) is a specification,
>>>>>>>>    developed by the Open Grid Forum, capable of describing many data
>>>>>>>>    formats, including both textual and binary, scientific and numeric,
>>>>>>>>    legacy and modern, commercial record-oriented, and many industry and
>>>>>>>>    military standards. It defines a language that is a subset of W3C
>>>>> XML
>>>>>>>>    schema to describe the logical format of the data, and annotations
>>>>>>>>    within the schema to describe the physical representation.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>    Daffodil is an open source implementation of the DFDL specification
>>>>> that
>>>>>>>>    uses these DFDL schemas to parse fixed format data into an infoset,
>>>>>>>>    which is most commonly represented as either XML or JSON. This
>>>>> allows
>>>>>>>>    the use of well-established XML or JSON technologies and libraries
>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>    consume, inspect, and manipulate fixed format data in existing
>>>>>>>>    solutions. Daffodil is also capable of the reverse by serializing or
>>>>>>>>    "unparsing" an XML or JSON infoset back to the original data format.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>    == Background ==
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>    Many different software solutions need to consume and manage data,
>>>>>>>>    including data directed routing, databases, data analysis, data
>>>>>>>>    cleansing, data visualizing, and more. A key aspect of such
>>>>> solutions is
>>>>>>>>    the need to transform the data into an easily consumable format.
>>>>>>>>    Usually, this means that for each unique data format, one develops a
>>>>>>>>    tool that can read and extract the necessary information, often
>>>>> leading
>>>>>>>>    to ad-hoc and data-format-specific description systems. Such
>>>>> systems are
>>>>>>>>    often proprietary, not well tested, and incompatible, leading to
>>>>> vendor
>>>>>>>>    lock-in, flawed software, and increased training costs. DFDL is a
>>>>> new
>>>>>>>>    standard, with version 1.0 completed in October of 2016, that solves
>>>>>>>>    these problems by defining an open standard to describe many
>>>>> different
>>>>>>>>    data formats and how to parse and unparse between the data and
>>>>> XML/JSON.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>    Two closed source implementations of DFDL currently exist. The
>>>>> first was
>>>>>>>>    created by IBM and is now part of their IBM® Integration Bus
>>>>> product.
>>>>>>>>    The second was created by the European Space Agency, called DFDL4S
>>>>> or
>>>>>>>>    "DFDL for Space" targeted at the challenges of their satellite data
>>>>>>>>    processing.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>    Around 2005, Pacific Northwest National Lab created Defuddle, built
>>>>> as
>>>>>>>>    an open source implementation and proof of concept of the draft DFDL
>>>>>>>>    specification and a test bed to feed new concepts into specification
>>>>>>>>    development. Primary development of Defuddle was eventually taken
>>>>> over
>>>>>>>>    by the National Center for Supercomputing Applications (NCSA).
>>>>> However,
>>>>>>>>    due to evolution of the DFDL specification and architectural and
>>>>>>>>    performance issues with Defuddle, around 2009, NCSA restarted the
>>>>>>>>    project with the new name of Daffodil, with a goal of implementing
>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>    complete DFDL specification. Daffodil development continued at NCSA
>>>>>>>>    until around 2012, at which point development slowed due to budget
>>>>>>>>    limitations. Shortly thereafter, primary development was picked up
>>>>> by
>>>>>>>>    Tresys Technology where it continues today, with contributions from
>>>>>>>>    other entities such as the Navy Research Lab, the Air Force Research
>>>>>>>>    Lab, MITRE, and Booz Allen Hamilton. In February of 2015, Daffodil
>>>>>>>>    version 1.0.0 was released, including support for the DFDL features
>>>>>>>>    needed to parse many common file formats. Daffodil version 2.0.0 is
>>>>>>>>    expected to be released in August of 2017, which will include
>>>>> unparse
>>>>>>>>    support with one-to-one parsing feature parity.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>    Entities including IBM, MITRE, NATO NCI Agency, Northrop-Grumman,
>>>>> Quark
>>>>>>>>    Security, Raytheon, and Tresys Technology have developed DFDL
>>>>> schemas
>>>>>>>>    for many data formats from varying technology domains, including
>>>>> PNG,
>>>>>>>>    GIF, BMP, PCAP, HL7, EDIFACT, NACHA, vCard, iCalendar, and
>>>>> MIL-STD-2045,
>>>>>>>>    many of which are publicly available on the DFDL Schemas github.
>>>>> There
>>>>>>>>    are also a number of military-application data formats, the
>>>>>>>>    specifications of which are not public, which have historically been
>>>>>>>>    very difficult and expensive to process, and for which DFDL schemas
>>>>> have
>>>>>>>>    been created or are actively in development; these include
>>>>>>>>    MIL-STD-6040/USMTF ATO, MIL-STD-6017/VMF, MIL-STD-6016/NATO STANAG
>>>>> 5516
>>>>>>>>    (aka "Link16").
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>    == Rationale ==
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>    Numerous software solutions exist that consume, inspect, analyze,
>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>    transform data, many of which can be found in the Apache Software
>>>>>>>>    Foundation (ASF). In order for tools like these to consume new
>>>>> types of
>>>>>>>>    data, custom extensions are usually required, often with high
>>>>>>>>    development and testing costs. Daffodil fills a clear gap in many of
>>>>>>>>    these solutions, providing a simple and low cost way to transform
>>>>> data
>>>>>>>>    to XML or JSON, which many of these tools natively support already.
>>>>> With
>>>>>>>>    the upcoming 2.0.0 release, the Daffodil project will have achieved
>>>>> a
>>>>>>>>    level of functionality in both parse and unparse that, when
>>>>> integrated
>>>>>>>>    into existing solutions, could provide for a new method to quickly
>>>>>>>>    enable support for new data formats.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>    == Initial Goals ==
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>    * Relicense the existing code from the University of Illinois/NCSA
>>>>> Open
>>>>>>>>    Source License to the Apache License version 2.0, working with
>>>>> Apache
>>>>>>>>    Legal to ensure correctness, and with Daffodil contributors to get
>>>>>>>>    their permission.
>>>>>>>>    * Move the existing codebase, documentation, bugs, and mailing
>>>>> lists to
>>>>>>>>    the Apache hosted infrastructure
>>>>>>>>    * Establish a formal release process and schedule, allowing for
>>>>>>>>    dependable release cycles in a manner consistent with the Apache
>>>>>>>>    development process.
>>>>>>>>    * Build relationships with ASF projects to add Daffodil support
>>>>> where
>>>>>>>>    appropriate
>>>>>>>>    * Grow the community to establish a diversity of background and
>>>>> expertise.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>    == Current Status ==
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>    === Meritocracy ===
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>    All initial committers are familiar with the principles of
>>>>> meritocracy.
>>>>>>>>    The Daffodil project has followed the model of meritocracy in the
>>>>> past,
>>>>>>>>    providing multiple outside entities commit access based on the
>>>>> quality
>>>>>>>>    of their contributions. In order to grow the Daffodil user base and
>>>>>>>>    development community, we are dedicated to continuing to operate
>>>>>>>>    Daffodil as a meritocracy.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>    A key ingredient in a meritocracy of developers is open group code
>>>>>>>>    review. The Daffodil project has operated in this mode throughout
>>>>> its
>>>>>>>>    existence and this provides a forum to improve the code, verify code
>>>>>>>>    quality, and educate new developers on the code base.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>    === Community ===
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>    Daffodil has a small community of users and developers. Although
>>>>> primary
>>>>>>>>    Daffodil development is done by Tresys Technology, a handful of
>>>>> other
>>>>>>>>    contributions have come from other entities including the Navy
>>>>> Research
>>>>>>>>    Lab, the Air Force Research Lab, MITRE, and Booz Allen Hamilton. In
>>>>>>>>    addition to developers, multiple users of Daffodil have created DFDL
>>>>>>>>    schemas, including entities such as MITRE, IBM, Raytheon, Quark
>>>>>>>>    Security, and Tresys Technology. The DFDL Schemas github community
>>>>> has
>>>>>>>>    been created as a place for DFDL schemas to be published. The
>>>>> Daffodil
>>>>>>>>    project also makes use of mailing lists, !HipChat, and Confluence
>>>>>>>>    Questions to build a community of users and system for support.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>    === Core Developers ===
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>    The core developers of Daffodil are employed by Tresys Technology.
>>>>> We
>>>>>>>>    will work to grow the community among a more diverse set of
>>>>> developers
>>>>>>>>    and industries.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>    === Alignment ===
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>    Daffodil was created as an open source project with a philosophy
>>>>>>>>    consistent with The Apache Way. A strong belief in meritocracy,
>>>>>>>>    community involvement in decisions, openness, and ensuring a high
>>>>> level
>>>>>>>>    of quality in code, documentation, and testing are some of our
>>>>> shared
>>>>>>>>    core beliefs.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>    Further, as mentioned in the Rationale section, Daffodil fills a gap
>>>>>>>>    that exists in many ASF projects, including !NiFi, Spark, Storm,
>>>>> Hadoop,
>>>>>>>>    Tika, and others. In order for tools like these to consume new
>>>>> types of
>>>>>>>>    data, custom extensions are usually required. Rather than create
>>>>> such
>>>>>>>>    extensions, Daffodil provides an easy and standards-compliant way to
>>>>>>>>    transform data to XML or JSON, which many of these tools already
>>>>>>>>    natively support.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>    == Known Risks ==
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>    === Orphaned Products ===
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>    The current core developers are the leading contributors in the
>>>>> space of
>>>>>>>>    DFDL and wish to see it flourish. Though there is some risk that the
>>>>>>>>    initial committers all come from the same company, a goal of
>>>>> entering
>>>>>>>>    into incubation is to grow the development community to minimize the
>>>>>>>>    risk of reliance on a single company.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>    === Inexperience with Open Source ===
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>    The Daffodil project began as an open source project and has
>>>>> continued
>>>>>>>>    that model throughout development. This includes public bug
>>>>> tracking,
>>>>>>>>    git revision control, automated builds and tests, and a public wiki
>>>>> for
>>>>>>>>    documentation.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>    Additionally, the current core developers and initial committers all
>>>>>>>>    work for a company that relies on, believes in, promotes, and has
>>>>> led or
>>>>>>>>    contributed to many open source software projects, including SELinux
>>>>>>>>    Userspace, OpenSCAP, CLIP, refpolicy, setools, RPM, and others. As
>>>>> such,
>>>>>>>>    there is low risk related to inexperience with open source software
>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>    processes.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>    === Homogeneous Developers ===
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>    The proposed initial committers come from a single entity, though
>>>>> we are
>>>>>>>>    committed to growing the Daffodil development community to include a
>>>>>>>>    broad group of additional committers from a wide array of
>>>>> industries.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>    === Reliance on Salaried Developers ===
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>    The proposed initial committers are paid by their employer to
>>>>> contribute
>>>>>>>>    to the Daffodil project. We expect that Daffodil development will
>>>>>>>>    continue with salaried developers, and are committed to growing the
>>>>>>>>    community to include non-salaried developers as well.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>    === Relationship with other Apache Projects ===
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>    As mentioned in the Alignment section, Daffodil fills a clear gap in
>>>>>>>>    numerous other ASF projects that consume and manage large amounts
>>>>> of data.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>    As a specific example, Daffodil developers have created a Daffodil
>>>>>>>>    Apache !NiFi Processor, currently in use in data transfer solutions,
>>>>>>>>    which allows one to ingest non-native data into an Apache !NiFi
>>>>> pipeline
>>>>>>>>    as XML or JSON. This processor was well received by the Apache !NiFi
>>>>>>>>    developers, with positive comments about the concise API and how it
>>>>>>>>    could handle non-native data. Daffodil developers have also
>>>>> successfully
>>>>>>>>    prototyped integration with Apache Spark. We believe Daffodil could
>>>>>>>>    provide a strong benefit to many other ASF projects that handle
>>>>> fixed
>>>>>>>>    format data. We anticipate working closely with such ASF projects to
>>>>>>>>    include Daffodil where applicable to increase their ability to
>>>>> support
>>>>>>>>    new data formats with minimal effort.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>    Daffodil also depends on existing ASF projects, including Apache
>>>>> Commons
>>>>>>>>    and Apache Xerces.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>    === An Excessive Fascination with the Apache Brand ===
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>    Although the Apache brand may certainly help to attract more
>>>>>>>>    contributors, publicity is not the reason for this proposal. We
>>>>> believe
>>>>>>>>    Daffodil could provide a great benefit to the ASF and the numerous
>>>>> data
>>>>>>>>    focused projects that comprise it, as described in the Rationale and
>>>>>>>>    Alignment sections. We hope to build a strong and vibrant community
>>>>>>>>    built around The Apache Way, and not dependent on a single company.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>    === Documentation ===
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>    Daffodil documentation can be found at:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>    *
>>>>>>>>    https://opensource.ncsa.illinois.edu/confluence/
>>>>>>>>    display/DFDL/Daffodil%3A+Open+Source+DFDL
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>    Information about DFDL can be found at:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>    * https://www.ogf.org/ogf/doku.php/standards/dfdl/dfdl
>>>>>>>>    *
>>>>>>>>    https://www.ibm.com/support/knowledgecenter/en/SSMKHH_9.0.
>>>>>>>>    0/com.ibm.etools.mft.doc/df20060_.htm
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>    Public examples of DFDL Schemas can be found at:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>    * https://github.com/DFDLSchemas
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>    == Initial Source ==
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>    The Daffodil git repo goes back to mid-2011 with approximately 20
>>>>>>>>    different contributors and feedback from many users and developers.
>>>>> The
>>>>>>>>    core codebase is written in Scala and includes both a Scala and Java
>>>>>>>>    API, along with Javadocs and Scaladocs for API usage. The initial
>>>>> code
>>>>>>>>    will come from the git repository currently hosted by NCSA at the
>>>>>>>>    University of Illinois :
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>    https://opensource.ncsa.illinois.edu/bitbucket/
>>>>>>>>    projects/DFDL/repos/daffodil/
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>    == Source and Intellectual Property Submission ==
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>    The complete Daffodil code is licensed under the University of
>>>>>>>>    Illinois/NCSA Open Source License. Much of the current codebase has
>>>>> been
>>>>>>>>    developed by Tresys Technology, who is open to relicensing the code
>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>    the Apache License version 2.0 and donate the source to the ASF.
>>>>>>>>    Contacts at NCSA are also open to relicensing their contributions to
>>>>>>>>    Apache v2. We plan to contact the other contributors and ask for
>>>>>>>>    permission to relicense and donate their contributed code. For those
>>>>>>>>    that decline or we cannot contact, their code will be removed or
>>>>>>>>    replaced. We will work closely with Apache Legal to ensure all
>>>>> issues
>>>>>>>>    related to relicensing are acceptable.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>    == External Dependencies ==
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>    We believe all current dependencies are compatible with the ASF
>>>>>>>>    guidelines. Our dependency licenses come from the following license
>>>>>>>>    styles: Apache v2, BSD, MIT, and ICU. The list of current Daffodil
>>>>>>>>    dependencies and their licenses are documented here:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>    https://opensource.ncsa.illinois.edu/confluence/
>>>>>>>>    display/DFDL/Dependencies+and+Licenses
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>    == Cryptography ==
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>    None
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>    == Required Resources ==
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>    === Mailing Lists ===
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>    * comm...@daffodil.incubator.apache.org
>>>>>>>>    * d...@daffodil.incubator.apache.org
>>>>>>>>    * priv...@daffodil.incubator.apache.org
>>>>>>>>    * u...@daffodil.incubator.apache.org
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>    === Source Control ===
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>    git://git.apache.org/incubator-daffodil.git
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>    === Issue Tracking ===
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>    JIRA Daffodil (DFDL)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>    === Initial Committers ===
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>    * Beth Finnegan <efinnegan at tresys dot com>
>>>>>>>>    * Dave Thompson <dthompson at tresys dot com>
>>>>>>>>    * Josh Adams <jadams at tresys dot com>
>>>>>>>>    * Mike Beckerle <mbeckerle at tresys dot com>
>>>>>>>>    * Steve Lawrence <slawrence at tresys dot com>
>>>>>>>>    * Taylor Wise <twise at tresys dot com>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>    === Affiliations ===
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>    * Beth Finnegan (Tresys Technology)
>>>>>>>>    * Dave Thompson (Tresys Technology)
>>>>>>>>    * Josh Adams (Tresys Technology)
>>>>>>>>    * Mike Beckerle (Tresys Technology)
>>>>>>>>    * Steve Lawrence (Tresys Technology)
>>>>>>>>    * Taylor Wise (Tresys Technology)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>    == Sponsors ==
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>    === Champion ===
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>    * TBD
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>    === Nominated Mentors ===
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>    * TBD
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>    === Sponsoring Entity ===
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>    We request the Apache Incubator to sponsor this project.
>>>>>>>>
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