Hi -

I agree. I'm willing to proceed with John and I as Mentors.

Regards,
Dave

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> On Aug 8, 2017, at 7:10 PM, John D. Ament <johndam...@apache.org> wrote:
> 
> Steve,
> 
> At this point, I'd recommend we wrap the discussion and call for a vote.  
> While ideally we want 3 mentors, we can get started with 2 and see how things 
> progress.
> 
> John
> 
>> On Wed, Aug 2, 2017 at 3:55 PM Steve Lawrence <stephen.d.lawre...@gmail.com> 
>> wrote:
>> Thanks John!
>> 
>> On 08/02/2017 03:23 PM, John D. Ament wrote:
>> > You can also count me in as a mentor.
>> >
>> > John
>> >
>> > On Wed, Aug 2, 2017 at 3:14 PM Steve Lawrence 
>> > <stephen.d.lawre...@gmail.com>
>> > wrote:
>> >
>> >> Understood. Thanks for the interest!
>> >>
>> >> - Steve
>> >>
>> >> On 08/02/2017 02:57 PM, Dave Fisher wrote:
>> >>> Hi Steve,
>> >>>
>> >>> It was not so much the lack of committers as it was the current
>> >> diversity. That is not a blocker for entry to Incubation.
>> >>>
>> >>> I am willing to be one of the Mentors. Once there are at least two more
>> >> we can push forward.
>> >>>
>> >>> Regards,
>> >>> Dave
>> >>>
>> >>>> On Aug 1, 2017, at 5:09 AM, Steve Lawrence <
>> >> stephen.d.lawre...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Discussions have died down, and I think the consensus from the responses
>> >>>> is that the issues are 1) the lack of committers and 2) the lack of a
>> >>>> champion and mentors. We hope to address #1 and grow the community as
>> >>>> part of incubation. Is anyone interested in being a champion or mentor
>> >>>> and help us with #2?
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Thanks,
>> >>>> - Steve
>> >>>>
>> >>>> On 07/26/2017 04:06 PM, Chris Mattmann wrote:
>> >>>>> This sounds like a very interesting project.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> I don’t have the time to mentor at the moment but I will keep a close
>> >> eye on it.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> Cheers,
>> >>>>> Chris Mattmann
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> On 7/25/17, 11:53 AM, "McHenry, Kenton Guadron" <mche...@illinois.edu>
>> >> wrote:
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>    Hi Dave,
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>    The developers that were at NCSA have moved on to other
>> >> organizations.  While we still leverage Daffodil and are very much
>> >> interested in seeing it move forward, development is currently done by the
>> >> Tresys team.  Agreed on the synergy with Tika.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>    Kenton McHenry, Ph.D.
>> >>>>>    Principal Research Scientist, Adjunct Assistant Professor of
>> >> Computer Science
>> >>>>>    Deputy Director of the Scientific Software & Applications Division
>> >>>>>    National Center for Supercomputing Applications, University of
>> >> Illinois at Urbana-Champaign
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>    On Jul 24, 2017, at 1:55 PM, Dave Fisher <dave2w...@comcast.net
>> >> <mailto:dave2w...@comcast.net>> wrote:
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>    Hi Kenton,
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>    Is there any reason that you and others from the NCSA are not
>> >> Initial Committers? That would make this proposal stronger.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>    Regarding Apache Tika - it relies on other projects including
>> >> Apache POI and Apache PDFBox. They are pragmatic about what is used. If
>> >> Daffodil works to expand then I think that there would be good synergy
>> >> between the projects. I know as a POI PMC member that the POI community 
>> >> has
>> >> significantly benefited from the Tika community some of whom are from 
>> >> Mitre.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>    To date Tika has not emphasized structured data, although they do
>> >> extract content from Excel and OpenOffice.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>    I am intrigued.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>    Regards,
>> >>>>>    Dave
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>    On Jul 24, 2017, at 10:55 AM, McHenry, Kenton Guadron <
>> >> mche...@illinois.edu<mailto:mche...@illinois.edu>> wrote:
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>    Yes, DFDL and its open source implementation Daffodil are more
>> >> about file formats and getting access to the entirety of a file's contents
>> >> in a consistent way through machine readable specifications.  The work has
>> >> implications in the area of digital preservation allowing one to preserve
>> >> these machine readable specifications rather than all the tools needed to
>> >> open/save a file in order to work with it.  Imagine someone developing
>> >> graphics software to work with 3D models and not having to worry about the
>> >> hundreds of formats out there for 3D meshes (whether there are tools for
>> >> opening the files and whether they can get access to those tools, whether
>> >> the spec is available and worrying about how complex that spec is to
>> >> implement, etc.), and simply building their code around the contents (e.g.
>> >> vertices, faces, etc.).  One could come up with similar scenarios for 
>> >> other
>> >> data types (documents, images, videos, audio, depth data, numeric data).
>> >> Ideally tools built supporting DFDL, could someday, support any format for
>> >> that type without the developer having to worry about the details of how
>> >> that data is represented within a file.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>    Kenton McHenry, Ph.D.
>> >>>>>    Principal Research Scientist, Adjunct Assistant Professor of
>> >> Computer Science
>> >>>>>    Deputy Director of the Scientific Software & Applications Division
>> >>>>>    National Center for Supercomputing Applications, University of
>> >> Illinois at Urbana-Champaign
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>    On Jul 24, 2017, at 10:30 AM, Steve Lawrence <
>> >> stephen.d.lawre...@gmail.com<mailto:stephen.d.lawre...@gmail.com><mailto:
>> >> stephen.d.lawre...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>    I'll preface this saying that I don't have a ton of experience with
>> >>>>>    Apache Tika. But based on my understanding, Tika and Daffodil do
>> >> have
>> >>>>>    somewhat similar goals, but reach them in different ways. For
>> >> example,
>> >>>>>    Tika requires that one writes /code/ to perform data extraction,
>> >> usually
>> >>>>>    relying on existing Java libraries to extract the desired metadata.
>> >> The
>> >>>>>    downside to this is that code can be buggy, and libraries might not
>> >> even
>> >>>>>    exist for formats of interest (especially common with legacy and
>> >>>>>    military data).
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>    Daffodil, on the other hand, does not require one to write any code.
>> >>>>>    Instead, one writes a DFDL Schema (similar to XML Schema, with DFDL
>> >>>>>    annotations) that fully describes the data, which Daffodil then
>> >> uses to
>> >>>>>    convert the data to XML/JSON for extraction. So adding support for
>> >> a new
>> >>>>>    format means writing a new schema rather than new code. And less
>> >> code
>> >>>>>    generally means less bugs. Also, for secure systems that require
>> >>>>>    certification, generally speaking, it is easier to certify a schema
>> >> as
>> >>>>>    compared to code.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>    We certainly don't believe that Daffodil could replace Tika, but it
>> >> does
>> >>>>>    have the potential to add new functionality to Tika for formats
>> >> that do
>> >>>>>    not have existing libraries. One of our goals is to look into
>> >>>>>    integrating Daffodil support into tools like Tika. We'd love to hear
>> >>>>>    from Tika devs if this is something they'd be interested in.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>    I'll also add that whereas Tika tends to focus primarily on
>> >> metadata,
>> >>>>>    DFDL schemas usually describe an entire file format down to the
>> >> byte, so
>> >>>>>    one can extract more than just meta data, including text and binary
>> >>>>>    data. Further differentiating, Daffodil has support for serializing
>> >> data
>> >>>>>    (called unparse) from the XML/JSON representation, allowing one to
>> >>>>>    transform or filter data as well. We don't believe this feature is
>> >> all
>> >>>>>    that applicable to Tika, but may be useful to other technologies
>> >> such as
>> >>>>>    filtering or data fuzzing technologies.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>    - Steve
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>    On 07/24/2017 10:59 AM, Mike Drob wrote:
>> >>>>>    What is the relationship between Daffodil and something like Apache
>> >> Tika's
>> >>>>>    extraction engine?
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>    On Mon, Jul 24, 2017 at 9:53 AM, Steve Lawrence <
>> >>>>>    stephen.d.lawre...@gmail.com<mailto:stephen.d.lawre...@gmail.com
>> >>> <mailto:stephen.d.lawre...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>    Dear Apache Incubator Community,
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>    We would like to start a discussion around a proposal to bring
>> >> Daffodil
>> >>>>>    into the Apache Incubator. Daffodil is a implementation of the DFDL
>> >>>>>    specification used to convert between fixed format data and
>> >> XML/JSON.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>    The draft proposal can be found in the wiki at the following URL:
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>    https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/DaffodilProposal
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>    We do not yet have a champion or mentors, but it was recommended
>> >> that we
>> >>>>>    create a proposal and send it to this list to potentially find those
>> >>>>>    that might be interested. The text for the draft proposal is found
>> >>>>>    below. We look forward to your input.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>    Thanks,
>> >>>>>    -Steve
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>    = Daffodil Proposal =
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>    == Abstract ==
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>    Daffodil is an implementation of the Data Format Description
>> >> Language
>> >>>>>    (DFDL) used to convert between fixed format data and XML/JSON.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>    == Proposal ==
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>    The Data Format Description Language (DFDL) is a specification,
>> >>>>>    developed by the Open Grid Forum, capable of describing many data
>> >>>>>    formats, including both textual and binary, scientific and numeric,
>> >>>>>    legacy and modern, commercial record-oriented, and many industry and
>> >>>>>    military standards. It defines a language that is a subset of W3C
>> >> XML
>> >>>>>    schema to describe the logical format of the data, and annotations
>> >>>>>    within the schema to describe the physical representation.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>    Daffodil is an open source implementation of the DFDL specification
>> >> that
>> >>>>>    uses these DFDL schemas to parse fixed format data into an infoset,
>> >>>>>    which is most commonly represented as either XML or JSON. This
>> >> allows
>> >>>>>    the use of well-established XML or JSON technologies and libraries
>> >> to
>> >>>>>    consume, inspect, and manipulate fixed format data in existing
>> >>>>>    solutions. Daffodil is also capable of the reverse by serializing or
>> >>>>>    "unparsing" an XML or JSON infoset back to the original data format.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>    == Background ==
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>    Many different software solutions need to consume and manage data,
>> >>>>>    including data directed routing, databases, data analysis, data
>> >>>>>    cleansing, data visualizing, and more. A key aspect of such
>> >> solutions is
>> >>>>>    the need to transform the data into an easily consumable format.
>> >>>>>    Usually, this means that for each unique data format, one develops a
>> >>>>>    tool that can read and extract the necessary information, often
>> >> leading
>> >>>>>    to ad-hoc and data-format-specific description systems. Such
>> >> systems are
>> >>>>>    often proprietary, not well tested, and incompatible, leading to
>> >> vendor
>> >>>>>    lock-in, flawed software, and increased training costs. DFDL is a
>> >> new
>> >>>>>    standard, with version 1.0 completed in October of 2016, that solves
>> >>>>>    these problems by defining an open standard to describe many
>> >> different
>> >>>>>    data formats and how to parse and unparse between the data and
>> >> XML/JSON.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>    Two closed source implementations of DFDL currently exist. The
>> >> first was
>> >>>>>    created by IBM and is now part of their IBM® Integration Bus
>> >> product.
>> >>>>>    The second was created by the European Space Agency, called DFDL4S
>> >> or
>> >>>>>    "DFDL for Space" targeted at the challenges of their satellite data
>> >>>>>    processing.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>    Around 2005, Pacific Northwest National Lab created Defuddle, built
>> >> as
>> >>>>>    an open source implementation and proof of concept of the draft DFDL
>> >>>>>    specification and a test bed to feed new concepts into specification
>> >>>>>    development. Primary development of Defuddle was eventually taken
>> >> over
>> >>>>>    by the National Center for Supercomputing Applications (NCSA).
>> >> However,
>> >>>>>    due to evolution of the DFDL specification and architectural and
>> >>>>>    performance issues with Defuddle, around 2009, NCSA restarted the
>> >>>>>    project with the new name of Daffodil, with a goal of implementing
>> >> the
>> >>>>>    complete DFDL specification. Daffodil development continued at NCSA
>> >>>>>    until around 2012, at which point development slowed due to budget
>> >>>>>    limitations. Shortly thereafter, primary development was picked up
>> >> by
>> >>>>>    Tresys Technology where it continues today, with contributions from
>> >>>>>    other entities such as the Navy Research Lab, the Air Force Research
>> >>>>>    Lab, MITRE, and Booz Allen Hamilton. In February of 2015, Daffodil
>> >>>>>    version 1.0.0 was released, including support for the DFDL features
>> >>>>>    needed to parse many common file formats. Daffodil version 2.0.0 is
>> >>>>>    expected to be released in August of 2017, which will include
>> >> unparse
>> >>>>>    support with one-to-one parsing feature parity.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>    Entities including IBM, MITRE, NATO NCI Agency, Northrop-Grumman,
>> >> Quark
>> >>>>>    Security, Raytheon, and Tresys Technology have developed DFDL
>> >> schemas
>> >>>>>    for many data formats from varying technology domains, including
>> >> PNG,
>> >>>>>    GIF, BMP, PCAP, HL7, EDIFACT, NACHA, vCard, iCalendar, and
>> >> MIL-STD-2045,
>> >>>>>    many of which are publicly available on the DFDL Schemas github.
>> >> There
>> >>>>>    are also a number of military-application data formats, the
>> >>>>>    specifications of which are not public, which have historically been
>> >>>>>    very difficult and expensive to process, and for which DFDL schemas
>> >> have
>> >>>>>    been created or are actively in development; these include
>> >>>>>    MIL-STD-6040/USMTF ATO, MIL-STD-6017/VMF, MIL-STD-6016/NATO STANAG
>> >> 5516
>> >>>>>    (aka "Link16").
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>    == Rationale ==
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>    Numerous software solutions exist that consume, inspect, analyze,
>> >> and
>> >>>>>    transform data, many of which can be found in the Apache Software
>> >>>>>    Foundation (ASF). In order for tools like these to consume new
>> >> types of
>> >>>>>    data, custom extensions are usually required, often with high
>> >>>>>    development and testing costs. Daffodil fills a clear gap in many of
>> >>>>>    these solutions, providing a simple and low cost way to transform
>> >> data
>> >>>>>    to XML or JSON, which many of these tools natively support already.
>> >> With
>> >>>>>    the upcoming 2.0.0 release, the Daffodil project will have achieved
>> >> a
>> >>>>>    level of functionality in both parse and unparse that, when
>> >> integrated
>> >>>>>    into existing solutions, could provide for a new method to quickly
>> >>>>>    enable support for new data formats.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>    == Initial Goals ==
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>    * Relicense the existing code from the University of Illinois/NCSA
>> >> Open
>> >>>>>    Source License to the Apache License version 2.0, working with
>> >> Apache
>> >>>>>    Legal to ensure correctness, and with Daffodil contributors to get
>> >>>>>    their permission.
>> >>>>>    * Move the existing codebase, documentation, bugs, and mailing
>> >> lists to
>> >>>>>    the Apache hosted infrastructure
>> >>>>>    * Establish a formal release process and schedule, allowing for
>> >>>>>    dependable release cycles in a manner consistent with the Apache
>> >>>>>    development process.
>> >>>>>    * Build relationships with ASF projects to add Daffodil support
>> >> where
>> >>>>>    appropriate
>> >>>>>    * Grow the community to establish a diversity of background and
>> >> expertise.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>    == Current Status ==
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>    === Meritocracy ===
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>    All initial committers are familiar with the principles of
>> >> meritocracy.
>> >>>>>    The Daffodil project has followed the model of meritocracy in the
>> >> past,
>> >>>>>    providing multiple outside entities commit access based on the
>> >> quality
>> >>>>>    of their contributions. In order to grow the Daffodil user base and
>> >>>>>    development community, we are dedicated to continuing to operate
>> >>>>>    Daffodil as a meritocracy.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>    A key ingredient in a meritocracy of developers is open group code
>> >>>>>    review. The Daffodil project has operated in this mode throughout
>> >> its
>> >>>>>    existence and this provides a forum to improve the code, verify code
>> >>>>>    quality, and educate new developers on the code base.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>    === Community ===
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>    Daffodil has a small community of users and developers. Although
>> >> primary
>> >>>>>    Daffodil development is done by Tresys Technology, a handful of
>> >> other
>> >>>>>    contributions have come from other entities including the Navy
>> >> Research
>> >>>>>    Lab, the Air Force Research Lab, MITRE, and Booz Allen Hamilton. In
>> >>>>>    addition to developers, multiple users of Daffodil have created DFDL
>> >>>>>    schemas, including entities such as MITRE, IBM, Raytheon, Quark
>> >>>>>    Security, and Tresys Technology. The DFDL Schemas github community
>> >> has
>> >>>>>    been created as a place for DFDL schemas to be published. The
>> >> Daffodil
>> >>>>>    project also makes use of mailing lists, !HipChat, and Confluence
>> >>>>>    Questions to build a community of users and system for support.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>    === Core Developers ===
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>    The core developers of Daffodil are employed by Tresys Technology.
>> >> We
>> >>>>>    will work to grow the community among a more diverse set of
>> >> developers
>> >>>>>    and industries.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>    === Alignment ===
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>    Daffodil was created as an open source project with a philosophy
>> >>>>>    consistent with The Apache Way. A strong belief in meritocracy,
>> >>>>>    community involvement in decisions, openness, and ensuring a high
>> >> level
>> >>>>>    of quality in code, documentation, and testing are some of our
>> >> shared
>> >>>>>    core beliefs.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>    Further, as mentioned in the Rationale section, Daffodil fills a gap
>> >>>>>    that exists in many ASF projects, including !NiFi, Spark, Storm,
>> >> Hadoop,
>> >>>>>    Tika, and others. In order for tools like these to consume new
>> >> types of
>> >>>>>    data, custom extensions are usually required. Rather than create
>> >> such
>> >>>>>    extensions, Daffodil provides an easy and standards-compliant way to
>> >>>>>    transform data to XML or JSON, which many of these tools already
>> >>>>>    natively support.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>    == Known Risks ==
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>    === Orphaned Products ===
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>    The current core developers are the leading contributors in the
>> >> space of
>> >>>>>    DFDL and wish to see it flourish. Though there is some risk that the
>> >>>>>    initial committers all come from the same company, a goal of
>> >> entering
>> >>>>>    into incubation is to grow the development community to minimize the
>> >>>>>    risk of reliance on a single company.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>    === Inexperience with Open Source ===
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>    The Daffodil project began as an open source project and has
>> >> continued
>> >>>>>    that model throughout development. This includes public bug
>> >> tracking,
>> >>>>>    git revision control, automated builds and tests, and a public wiki
>> >> for
>> >>>>>    documentation.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>    Additionally, the current core developers and initial committers all
>> >>>>>    work for a company that relies on, believes in, promotes, and has
>> >> led or
>> >>>>>    contributed to many open source software projects, including SELinux
>> >>>>>    Userspace, OpenSCAP, CLIP, refpolicy, setools, RPM, and others. As
>> >> such,
>> >>>>>    there is low risk related to inexperience with open source software
>> >> and
>> >>>>>    processes.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>    === Homogeneous Developers ===
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>    The proposed initial committers come from a single entity, though
>> >> we are
>> >>>>>    committed to growing the Daffodil development community to include a
>> >>>>>    broad group of additional committers from a wide array of
>> >> industries.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>    === Reliance on Salaried Developers ===
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>    The proposed initial committers are paid by their employer to
>> >> contribute
>> >>>>>    to the Daffodil project. We expect that Daffodil development will
>> >>>>>    continue with salaried developers, and are committed to growing the
>> >>>>>    community to include non-salaried developers as well.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>    === Relationship with other Apache Projects ===
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>    As mentioned in the Alignment section, Daffodil fills a clear gap in
>> >>>>>    numerous other ASF projects that consume and manage large amounts
>> >> of data.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>    As a specific example, Daffodil developers have created a Daffodil
>> >>>>>    Apache !NiFi Processor, currently in use in data transfer solutions,
>> >>>>>    which allows one to ingest non-native data into an Apache !NiFi
>> >> pipeline
>> >>>>>    as XML or JSON. This processor was well received by the Apache !NiFi
>> >>>>>    developers, with positive comments about the concise API and how it
>> >>>>>    could handle non-native data. Daffodil developers have also
>> >> successfully
>> >>>>>    prototyped integration with Apache Spark. We believe Daffodil could
>> >>>>>    provide a strong benefit to many other ASF projects that handle
>> >> fixed
>> >>>>>    format data. We anticipate working closely with such ASF projects to
>> >>>>>    include Daffodil where applicable to increase their ability to
>> >> support
>> >>>>>    new data formats with minimal effort.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>    Daffodil also depends on existing ASF projects, including Apache
>> >> Commons
>> >>>>>    and Apache Xerces.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>    === An Excessive Fascination with the Apache Brand ===
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>    Although the Apache brand may certainly help to attract more
>> >>>>>    contributors, publicity is not the reason for this proposal. We
>> >> believe
>> >>>>>    Daffodil could provide a great benefit to the ASF and the numerous
>> >> data
>> >>>>>    focused projects that comprise it, as described in the Rationale and
>> >>>>>    Alignment sections. We hope to build a strong and vibrant community
>> >>>>>    built around The Apache Way, and not dependent on a single company.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>    === Documentation ===
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>    Daffodil documentation can be found at:
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>    *
>> >>>>>    https://opensource.ncsa.illinois.edu/confluence/
>> >>>>>    display/DFDL/Daffodil%3A+Open+Source+DFDL
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>    Information about DFDL can be found at:
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>    * https://www.ogf.org/ogf/doku.php/standards/dfdl/dfdl
>> >>>>>    *
>> >>>>>    https://www.ibm.com/support/knowledgecenter/en/SSMKHH_9.0.
>> >>>>>    0/com.ibm.etools.mft.doc/df20060_.htm
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>    Public examples of DFDL Schemas can be found at:
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>    * https://github.com/DFDLSchemas
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>    == Initial Source ==
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>    The Daffodil git repo goes back to mid-2011 with approximately 20
>> >>>>>    different contributors and feedback from many users and developers.
>> >> The
>> >>>>>    core codebase is written in Scala and includes both a Scala and Java
>> >>>>>    API, along with Javadocs and Scaladocs for API usage. The initial
>> >> code
>> >>>>>    will come from the git repository currently hosted by NCSA at the
>> >>>>>    University of Illinois :
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>    https://opensource.ncsa.illinois.edu/bitbucket/
>> >>>>>    projects/DFDL/repos/daffodil/
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>    == Source and Intellectual Property Submission ==
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>    The complete Daffodil code is licensed under the University of
>> >>>>>    Illinois/NCSA Open Source License. Much of the current codebase has
>> >> been
>> >>>>>    developed by Tresys Technology, who is open to relicensing the code
>> >> to
>> >>>>>    the Apache License version 2.0 and donate the source to the ASF.
>> >>>>>    Contacts at NCSA are also open to relicensing their contributions to
>> >>>>>    Apache v2. We plan to contact the other contributors and ask for
>> >>>>>    permission to relicense and donate their contributed code. For those
>> >>>>>    that decline or we cannot contact, their code will be removed or
>> >>>>>    replaced. We will work closely with Apache Legal to ensure all
>> >> issues
>> >>>>>    related to relicensing are acceptable.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>    == External Dependencies ==
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>    We believe all current dependencies are compatible with the ASF
>> >>>>>    guidelines. Our dependency licenses come from the following license
>> >>>>>    styles: Apache v2, BSD, MIT, and ICU. The list of current Daffodil
>> >>>>>    dependencies and their licenses are documented here:
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>    https://opensource.ncsa.illinois.edu/confluence/
>> >>>>>    display/DFDL/Dependencies+and+Licenses
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>    == Cryptography ==
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>    None
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>    == Required Resources ==
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>    === Mailing Lists ===
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>    * comm...@daffodil.incubator.apache.org
>> >>>>>    * d...@daffodil.incubator.apache.org
>> >>>>>    * priv...@daffodil.incubator.apache.org
>> >>>>>    * u...@daffodil.incubator.apache.org
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>    === Source Control ===
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>    git://git.apache.org/incubator-daffodil.git
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>    === Issue Tracking ===
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>    JIRA Daffodil (DFDL)
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>    === Initial Committers ===
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>    * Beth Finnegan <efinnegan at tresys dot com>
>> >>>>>    * Dave Thompson <dthompson at tresys dot com>
>> >>>>>    * Josh Adams <jadams at tresys dot com>
>> >>>>>    * Mike Beckerle <mbeckerle at tresys dot com>
>> >>>>>    * Steve Lawrence <slawrence at tresys dot com>
>> >>>>>    * Taylor Wise <twise at tresys dot com>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>    === Affiliations ===
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>    * Beth Finnegan (Tresys Technology)
>> >>>>>    * Dave Thompson (Tresys Technology)
>> >>>>>    * Josh Adams (Tresys Technology)
>> >>>>>    * Mike Beckerle (Tresys Technology)
>> >>>>>    * Steve Lawrence (Tresys Technology)
>> >>>>>    * Taylor Wise (Tresys Technology)
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>    == Sponsors ==
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>    === Champion ===
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>    * TBD
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>    === Nominated Mentors ===
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>    * TBD
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>    === Sponsoring Entity ===
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>    We request the Apache Incubator to sponsor this project.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
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