To Dave’s question about participation, I believe that’s correct. The PPMC members who are not proposed for the PMC have all been wholly inactive for at least year.
To Dave’s question about commit rights, as a podling we never added any non-PPMC committers, so I personally think it’s appropriate that we would only maintain commit rights for those on the new PMC. I expect the community would welcome any former participants who returned and wanted to contribute again eagerly, and they could regain commit rights in short order. But based on feedback from both of you, I will open a thread on private@streams asking for feedback on the decision everyone on the PPMC. Clearly I should have done that prior to circulating the draft among this group. Steve On July 5, 2017 at 4:30:54 PM, John D. Ament (johndam...@apache.org) wrote: So I just went back through the archives. I think I share Dave's concerns about notifying. It looks like the incubator list was the first place the proposed resolution was shared. Would be good to put in front of the private@streams list make sure no one has any concerns with it. John On Wed, Jul 5, 2017 at 4:26 PM Dave Fisher <dave2w...@comcast.net> wrote: > Thanks for clarifying. Does this list correspond to those who have > participated with commits and project work in the last 6 months or year who > are PPMC members or committers? Will you continue to allow all current > committers to have commit rights once you go to TLP? > > My concern is anyone losing merit even if it has been a few years. People > come and go. Sometimes people come back after being absent for a couple of > years. One aspect at Apache is that merit does not expire. > > (I am part of OpenOffice where we went from a huge PPMC to a large PMC on > graduation so I feel what you are doing is legitimate.) > > Regards, > Dave > > On Jul 5, 2017, at 1:19 PM, sblackmon <sblack...@apache.org> wrote: > > As the PPMC member encouraged to draft the resolution, that was the > condition I decided to apply, after running it by a few others from the > community out-of-band. There was no email thread on the topic, so using > the definition that decisions must be made on the list, this wasn’t a group > decision, it was an action by me. > > Sorry for the confusion. > > Steve > > On July 5, 2017 at 2:45:50 PM, Dave Fisher (dave2w...@comcast.net) wrote: > > Hi Steve, > > Where was that decision made? I don’t see that recently in Pony Mail > archives. I don’t see anything wrong with decision I just don’t see any > record of it. Please let us know when it was made and how it was recorded. > > > Regards, > Dave > > > On Jul 5, 2017, at 12:33 PM, sblackmon <sblack...@apache.org> wrote: > > > > John, > > > > We decided to propose only PPMC members who voted +1 to the graduation > resolution for the PMC. If that left out anyone harboring a latent plan to > re-engage with the project community, and they let us know on dev@streams, > we’d be happy to add their names onto the resolution. > > > > Steve > > > > On July 5, 2017 at 2:12:53 PM, John D. Ament (johndam...@apache.org) > wrote: > > > > Hi Steve, > > > > Thanks for drafting this. I see there's a big difference between the > > listed PPMC and the proposed PMC. I'm assuming you've reached out to > those > > excluded and confirmed they're not interested in Streams any longer? > > > > John > > > > On Wed, Jul 5, 2017 at 2:48 PM sblackmon <sblack...@apache.org> wrote: > > > >> Hello, > >> > >> The Streams PPMC has discussed [1] and voted [2] to graduate to TLP. > >> > >> In preparation for an IPMC vote on the matter, we’ve updated our project > > >> status xml [3] and corresponding whimsy podlingStatus [4], completed an > > >> Apache Maturity Model Assessment [5], and drafted a proposed charter > [6]. > >> > >> We’d appreciate any feedback you can provide at this stage to help > ensure > >> the project has all bases covered to become a successful Apache TLP. > >> > >> Thank you for your consideration. > >> > >> [1] > >> > https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/64738d9382b094bb52a733e7d44f5497eecc04fae4255366abc0270b@ > > >> <dev.streams.apache.org> > >> [2] > >> > >> > https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/cd17d49769b85a8cda14cd16624032c0ddb02e8e707545082c5fc893@ > > >> <dev.streams.apache.org> > >> [3] > >> http://incubator.apache.org/projects/streams.html > >> [4] > >> https://whimsy.apache.org/roster/ppmc/streams#podlingStatus > >> [5] > >> > >> > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/STREAMS/Apache+Maturity+Model+Assessment+for+Streams > > >> [6] > >> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/STREAMS/Proposed+Charter > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > >
