Indeed, the month delay in consideration is exactly an opportunity to correct the resolutions technical defects.
On Thu, Oct 22, 2015 at 8:27 AM, Hadrian Zbarcea <hzbar...@gmail.com> wrote: > Hi John, > > I was a reply to your message, but it was not pointed at you. Seriously. > Maybe the "curious" part a bit, because you asked. We know however from > experience that there are many other people who are curious what happens > when unusual events like this take place and even a few, as I called them > "conspiracy theorists". > > Normally I wouldn't write such a reply, but I wanted to take the > opportunity to also point the positive (because the negatives are so often > debated at length), which is the fact that board actually was accommodating > and offered the opportunity for correction. Just to paint a clearer picture > of the *people* behind board@. > > So concerns like the ones you raised are, from my point of view, very > welcome. Especially as they come in the right tone. They create > opportunities for learning for lurkers. > > Cheers, > Hadrian > > > > On 10/22/2015 11:13 AM, John D. Ament wrote: > >> On Oct 22, 2015 8:05 AM, "Hadrian Zbarcea" <hzbar...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> >>> For the curious and conspiracy theorists :) let me complete the picture. >>> >>> I did actually attend the board meeting as I usually do and the board was >>> >> gracious enough to give me a couple of minutes to correct the resolution. >> Unfortunately, whimsy wouldn't save the corrected resolution, for a reason >> I don't yet understand. I went a second round with svn, but ran out of >> time. >> >>> >>> Looks like I got the graduation gods really angry. This is not what a >>> >> podling should expect from an ASF member. >> >> I'll assume that this was pointed to me. If your email was clearer I >> wouldn't have been confused about scope. I apologize for any concerns >> this >> raised. >> >> Note that I never said you needed a revote. It wasn't clear that this >> came >> out of the board, in the past when we had failed graduations it never made >> it back to the incubator. >> >> >>> Hadrian >>> >>> On 10/22/2015 07:03 AM, John D. Ament wrote: >>> >>>> >>>> Ah ha. It wasn't clear from the original email this happened during the >>>> board meeting. Now I get it. >>>> On Oct 21, 2015 23:09, "Marvin Humphrey" <mar...@rectangular.com> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>> On Wed, Oct 21, 2015 at 7:58 PM, John D. Ament <johndam...@apache.org> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> I think that's my point. Those two weeks should be used to get >>>>>> >>>>> incubator >> >>> approval. If you wait 4 weeks you don't graduate until December. >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> The Incubator isn't going to vote again. The text of the graduation >>>>> resolution from an Incubator recommendation is advisory and the Board >>>>> often modifies it. (The Incubator gets the text wrong embarrassingly >>>>> often.) The Board passing a resolution to establish a TLP is the >>>>> crucial step from the standpoint of the Foundation as a corporate >>>>> entity. >>>>> >>>>> It's regrettable that the glitch was not caught until there was little >>>>> time left during today's meeting, but resolutions are powerful tools >>>>> and it's important to get the language right. The Foundation's bylaws >>>>> constrain the Board's ability to act -- it's not supposed to be easy. >>>>> >>>>> Marvin Humphrey >>>>> >>>>> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org >>>>> For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org >>> For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org >>> >>> >> > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org > >
