On Oct 22, 2015 8:05 AM, "Hadrian Zbarcea" <hzbar...@gmail.com> wrote:
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> For the curious and conspiracy theorists :) let me complete the picture.
>
> I did actually attend the board meeting as I usually do and the board was
gracious enough to give me a couple of minutes to correct the resolution.
Unfortunately, whimsy wouldn't save the corrected resolution, for a reason
I don't yet understand. I went a second round with svn, but ran out of time.
>
> Looks like I got the graduation gods really angry. This is not what a
podling should expect from an ASF member.

I'll assume that this was pointed to me.  If your email was clearer I
wouldn't have been confused about scope.  I apologize for any concerns this
raised.

Note that I never said you needed a revote.  It wasn't clear that this came
out of the board, in the past when we had failed graduations it never made
it back to the incubator.

>
> Hadrian
>
> On 10/22/2015 07:03 AM, John D. Ament wrote:
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>> Ah ha.  It wasn't clear from the original email this happened during the
>> board meeting.  Now I get it.
>> On Oct 21, 2015 23:09, "Marvin Humphrey" <mar...@rectangular.com> wrote:
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>>> On Wed, Oct 21, 2015 at 7:58 PM, John D. Ament <johndam...@apache.org>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I think that's my point.  Those two weeks should be used to get
incubator
>>>> approval.  If you wait 4 weeks you don't graduate until December.
>>>
>>>
>>> The Incubator isn't going to vote again.  The text of the graduation
>>> resolution from an Incubator recommendation is advisory and the Board
>>> often modifies it. (The Incubator gets the text wrong embarrassingly
>>> often.)  The Board passing a resolution to establish a TLP is the
>>> crucial step from the standpoint of the Foundation as a corporate
>>> entity.
>>>
>>> It's regrettable that the glitch was not caught until there was little
>>> time left during today's meeting, but resolutions are powerful tools
>>> and it's important to get the language right. The Foundation's bylaws
>>> constrain the Board's ability to act -- it's not supposed to be easy.
>>>
>>> Marvin Humphrey
>>>
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