On 12 October 2014 17:40, Roman Shaposhnik <r...@apache.org> wrote: > On Sun, Oct 12, 2014 at 5:16 AM, sebb <seb...@gmail.com> wrote: >> I don't think that's correct. > > Well, since neither of us is a lawyer (at least I am not) at this > point we're debating interpretations on ALv2. > >> A source distribution with NOTICE may be included in an ASF binary >> distribution - e.g. example code is often included in biary dists. >> In this case the relevant parts of the source NOTICE would need to be >> considered for inclusion in the ASF NOTICE for the binary. >> >> In other words a source distribution affects all works that include >> it, not just source distributiions. > > My opinion is that you're abusing the notion of the distribution here.
I meant distribution in the sense of being publically available for distribution, rather than the word as used by Linux providers. I think my usage agrees with the "Apache License and Distribution FAQ" http://www.apache.org/foundation/license-faq.html >> The NOTICE file in an ASF source release must contain all *required* >> attributions for all included bits, and must not contain attributions >> for bits that are not included. Only INCLUDED bits affect the NOTICE >> (and LICENSE) files. > > Correct. I'm glad we agree on something. Do you agree that the above paragraph also applies to ASF binary releases? >> The process for determining what goes in the ASF NOTICE file starts >> with the contents of the associated release artifact. > > I still maintain that my interpretation of ALv2 makes it relevant > what distribution we're talking about source or binary. That is the first time I have encountered the notion. Which parts of the ALv2 lead you to that conclusion? >>> 3. presence or absence of NOTICEs in binary distribution doesn't >>> affect source distribution. >> >> Not true. > > That would be your opinion at this point. The one that I don't share. > >>> 4. presence or absence of NOTICEs in source distribution doesn't >>> affect binary distribution. >> >> Not true. > > Ditto. If you are saying that the NOTICE in an ASF binary release has no direct bearing on the NOTICE in the corresponding ASF source release, then strictly speaking I agree with you (though of course both will have the same pre-amble, and may indeed be identical). The NOTICE in an ASF source release does however affect the corresponding ASF binary release. However, if you are saying that a NOTICE in an arbitrary _binary_ distribution does not affect an ASF _source_ distribution which includes said _binary_ distribution, then I don't agree. Likewise if you swap _binary_ and _source_ in the previous sentence. > Thanks, > Roman. > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org