On Mon, Aug 22, 2011 at 12:04 PM, Andrew Bayer <andrew.ba...@gmail.com> wrote:
> fwiw, in this case, we weren't releasing via Maven, so there wasn't a
> technical reason to reuse the tag.
>
> And yeah, sorry, this is my first ever ASF release, and our mentors
> suggested we try releasing in order to find out what needed to be fixed for
> the release. =)

Ah, just what you were hoping for, contradictory direction. Sorry,
we're really good at that here at the incubator.

>
> A.
>
> On Mon, Aug 22, 2011 at 8:56 AM, Benson Margulies 
> <bimargul...@gmail.com>wrote:
>
>> On Mon, Aug 22, 2011 at 11:26 AM, Andrew Bayer <andrew.ba...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> > Whoops. Sorry about that. New tag created -
>> >
>> https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/bigtop/tags/release-0.1.0-incubating-RC2
>> >
>> > A.
>> >
>> > On Mon, Aug 22, 2011 at 5:37 AM, sebb <seb...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >
>> >> Tags are supposed to be immutable.
>>
>> Two points here.
>>
>> 1) It's a bad idea to do serious QA only as part of a release vote. It
>> leads to a lot of noise and duplicated effort. Some of what led to a
>> respin here could have been tested for before starting a vote.
>>
>> 2) Sebb, I'm sorry to point out that labels are frequently mutated as
>> part of the release process in various TLP's of which am a part. The
>> typical procedure is:
>>
>> 1) Try very hard to sort out any possible problems.
>> 2) Run maven-release-plugin. This creates a tag named after the
>> proposed release (e.g. cxf-2.4).
>> 3) Start vote.
>> 3) If awful turns up, delete tag, goto 1.
>>
>> The problem is that maven metadata captures the actual svn path, so if
>> you try to take the '-rcn and rename' you end up with poms with the
>> wrong svn tags in them. So we're all stuck with not-quite-immutable
>> tags.
>>
>> >>
>> >> For example, add an -RCn suffix which is removed (SVN copy or rename)
>> >> when the vote succeeds.
>> >>
>> >> Failing that, please quote the revision number of the tag.
>> >>
>> >> Otherwise it's not possible to determine what was actually voted on.
>> >>
>> >> [BTW, the new tar file format reads OK in Winzip and Ant.]
>> >>
>> >> On 22 August 2011 01:56, Andrew Bayer <andrew.ba...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >> > Tag replaced.
>> >> >
>> >> > A.
>> >> >
>> >> > On Sun, Aug 21, 2011 at 5:26 PM, sebb <seb...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> >> On 22 August 2011 00:49, Andrew Bayer <andrew.ba...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> >> >> > New candidate up at
>> >> >> >
>> http://people.apache.org/~abayer/bigtop-0.1.0-incubating-candidate-2/
>> >> .
>> >> >> The
>> >> >> > only files RAT still sees missing license headers are Debian
>> packaging
>> >> >> files
>> >> >> > that are just lists of files, and test data files. README.md has
>> been
>> >> >> > replaced with README. The gitignore files are, at least for now,
>> >> excluded
>> >> >> > from the tarball. The webpage has been updated. The tarball has
>> been
>> >> >> built
>> >> >> > with GNU tar, rather than BSD tar.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > Let me know if there are any more issues. Thanks!
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Can't find an SVN tag for the source.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> > A.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > On Sun, Aug 21, 2011 at 11:45 AM, Andrew Bayer <
>> >> andrew.ba...@gmail.com
>> >> >> >wrote:
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> The README is formatted for GitHub - will update that shortly. The
>> >> >> tarball
>> >> >> >> contents being weird I think is due to me having built the tar on
>> OS
>> >> X -
>> >> >> >> I'll build the next one on a Linux box to be safe. I'll try to get
>> >> the
>> >> >> files
>> >> >> >> missing headers today as well.
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> A.
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> On Sat, Aug 20, 2011 at 4:28 AM, sebb <seb...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >>> Just noticed that the README.md file contains the following:
>> >> >> >>>
>> >> >> >>> You can get in touch with us on the [user
>> >> >> >>> list](
>> >> >> https://groups.google.com/a/cloudera.org/group/bigtop-user/topics)
>> >> >> >>> or [developer list](
>> >> >> >>> https://groups.google.com/a/cloudera.org/group/bigtop-dev/topics
>> ).
>> >> >> >>>
>> >> >> >>> This also needs to be fixed before release.
>> >> >> >>>
>> >> >> >>> Why is this not a .txt file?
>> >> >> >>>
>> >> >> >>> On 20 August 2011 03:08, sebb <seb...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >> >> >>> > On 19 August 2011 23:14, Andrew Bayer <andrew.ba...@gmail.com>
>> >> >> wrote:
>> >> >> >>> >> Ack, I screwed up and overwrote RC0 with RC1. In any case,
>> please
>> >> >> find
>> >> >> >>> RC1
>> >> >> >>> >> at
>> >> >> >>>
>> >> http://people.apache.org/~abayer/bigtop-0.1.0-incubating-candidate-1/.
>> >> >> >>> >
>> >> >> >>> > NOTICE looks good, and I can see DISCLAIMER.
>> >> >> >>> > Archive still contains .gitignore files, which should be
>> excluded.
>> >> >> >>> >
>> >> >> >>> >> Website should update shortly.
>> >> >> >>> >
>> >> >> >>> > No sign yet.
>> >> >> >>> >
>> >> >> >>> >> A.
>> >> >> >>> >>
>> >> >> >>> >> On Fri, Aug 19, 2011 at 3:00 PM, Andrew Bayer <
>> >> >> andrew.ba...@gmail.com
>> >> >> >>> >wrote:
>> >> >> >>> >>
>> >> >> >>> >>> Oh, and I'm reformatting NOTICE now as well. The .gitignore
>> >> files -
>> >> >> >>> I'll
>> >> >> >>> >>> open a bug to remove the top-level one from the tarball, but
>> the
>> >> >> ones
>> >> >> >>> that
>> >> >> >>> >>> show up deeper are expected by the build process.
>> >> >> >>> >>>
>> >> >> >>> >>>  A.
>> >> >> >>> >>>
>> >> >> >>> >>>
>> >> >> >>> >>> On Fri, Aug 19, 2011 at 2:58 PM, Andrew Bayer <
>> >> >> andrew.ba...@gmail.com
>> >> >> >>> >wrote:
>> >> >> >>> >>>
>> >> >> >>> >>>> Which source files are missing the headers? I know there are
>> >> some
>> >> >> >>> files
>> >> >> >>> >>>> without headers, but the ones I know of are that way because
>> >> >> they're
>> >> >> >>> >>>> expected to be in certain formats, they don't allow
>> comments,
>> >> etc
>> >> >> -
>> >> >> >>> these
>> >> >> >>> >>>> should only be Debian/RPM packaging files, unless I'm
>> missing
>> >> >> >>> something.
>> >> >> >>> >>>>
>> >> >> >>> >>>> As to the package contents - as far as I can tell,
>> everything
>> >> is
>> >> >> >>> under
>> >> >> >>> >>>> bigtop-0.1.0-incubating. The contents there are the same as
>> in
>> >> >> SVN,
>> >> >> >>> same
>> >> >> >>> >>>> layout as in SVN, etc. The content under test is not yet
>> being
>> >> >> >>> built/used,
>> >> >> >>> >>>> and may well be reorganized later, but it's all there. If
>> there
>> >> >> are
>> >> >> >>> any
>> >> >> >>> >>>> inconsistencies with what's in SVN, let me know and I'll
>> check
>> >> it
>> >> >> >>> out.
>> >> >> >>> >>>>
>> >> >> >>> >>>> Adding DISCLAIMER now.
>> >> >> >>> >>>>
>> >> >> >>> >>>> A.
>> >> >> >>> >>>>
>> >> >> >>> >>>>
>> >> >> >>> >>>> On Fri, Aug 19, 2011 at 2:48 PM, sebb <seb...@gmail.com>
>> >> wrote:
>> >> >> >>> >>>>
>> >> >> >>> >>>>> On 19 August 2011 19:25, Andrew Bayer <
>> andrew.ba...@gmail.com
>> >> >
>> >> >> >>> wrote:
>> >> >> >>> >>>>> > This is the first incubator release for Apache Bigtop,
>> >> version
>> >> >> >>> >>>>> > 0.1.0-incubating.
>> >> >> >>> >>>>> >
>> >> >> >>> >>>>> > It fixes the following issues:
>> >> >> >>> >>>>> >
>> >> >> >>> >>>>>
>> >> >> >>>
>> >> >>
>> >>
>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/ReleaseNote.jspa?version=12317549&styleName=Html&projectId=12311420
>> >> >> >>> >>>>> >
>> >> >> >>> >>>>> > *** Please download, test, and vote by Wednesday, August
>> 24
>> >> (3
>> >> >> >>> working
>> >> >> >>> >>>>> days
>> >> >> >>> >>>>> > from now)
>> >> >> >>> >>>>> >
>> >> >> >>> >>>>> > Note that we are voting on the source (tag).
>> >> >> >>> >>>>> >
>> >> >> >>> >>>>> > Source tarball, checksums, signature:
>> >> >> >>> >>>>> >
>> >> >> >>>
>> >> http://people.apache.org/~abayer/bigtop-0.1.0-incubating-candidate-0/
>> >> >> >>> >>>>>
>> >> >> >>> >>>>> A lot of source files don't have any license headers.
>> >> >> >>> >>>>> There's no DISCLAIMER in the archive; needs also to be
>> added
>> >> to
>> >> >> SVN
>> >> >> >>> >>>>> alongside NOTICE and LICENSE.
>> >> >> >>> >>>>>
>> >> >> >>> >>>>> The DISCLAIMER text must also be prominently displayed on
>> the
>> >> >> bigtop
>> >> >> >>> >>>>> website.
>> >> >> >>> >>>>>
>> >> >> >>> >>>>> IMO these must be fixed before a release.
>> >> >> >>> >>>>>
>> >> >> >>> >>>>> The NOTICE file has a slightly different layout from normal
>> >> (not
>> >> >> a
>> >> >> >>> >>>>> blocker).
>> >> >> >>> >>>>> It would look better if the paragraph were wrapped after
>> >> >> "developed
>> >> >> >>> >>>>> at" - as is normally done - because the URL would then not
>> be
>> >> >> left
>> >> >> >>> >>>>> dangling.
>> >> >> >>> >>>>>
>> >> >> >>> >>>>> I would not expect the .gitignore files to be included in
>> the
>> >> >> source
>> >> >> >>> >>>>> release.
>> >> >> >>> >>>>>
>> >> >> >>> >>>>> There seems to be a problem with the packaging of the
>> archive
>> >> - I
>> >> >> >>> >>>>> would expect all files to be under the top-level directory
>> >> >> >>> >>>>> bigtop-0.1.0-incubating, but there are also parallel
>> >> directories
>> >> >> >>> >>>>> package, sqoop, smokes etc.  This makes it very difficult
>> to
>> >> >> check
>> >> >> >>> the
>> >> >> >>> >>>>> archive against the source archive.
>> >> >> >>> >>>>>
>> >> >> >>> >>>>> Again, I think this needs to be fixed before release.
>> >> >> >>> >>>>>
>> >> >> >>> >>>>> > The tag to be voted on:
>> >> >> >>> >>>>> >
>> >> >> >>> >>>>>
>> >> >> >>>
>> >> >>
>> >>
>> http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/bigtop/tags/release-0.1.0-incubating
>> >> >> >>> >>>>>
>> >> >> >>> >>>>> > Bigtop's KEYS file, containing the PGP keys used to sign
>> the
>> >> >> >>> release:
>> >> >> >>> >>>>> >
>> http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/bigtop/dist/KEYS
>> >> >> >>> >>>>>
>> >> >> >>> >>>>> sig is OK
>> >> >> >>> >>>>>
>> >> >> >>> >>>>> > Note that the Incubator PMC needs to vote on the release
>> >> after
>> >> >> a
>> >> >> >>> >>>>> successful
>> >> >> >>> >>>>> > PPMC vote before any release can be made official.
>> >> >> >>> >>>>> >
>> >> >> >>> >>>>> > Thanks!
>> >> >> >>> >>>>> >
>> >> >> >>> >>>>> > A.
>> >> >> >>> >>>>> >
>> >> >> >>> >>>>>
>> >> >> >>> >>>>>
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