Yes meritocracy; spelling never was best attribute. regards Malcolm edgar
On Sat, Jul 19, 2008 at 10:58 PM, Martijn Dashorst <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I think you mean meritocracy instead of mediocrity :) > > Martijn > > On Sat, Jul 19, 2008 at 2:40 PM, Malcolm Edgar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Hi All, >> >> I do take the point that there are no "project leads" in ASF and if >> Click were to go throught the incubator process and become a fully >> fledged ASF project that this would change. The project would follow >> the Apache mediocrity rules. I genuinely belive that this would be a >> good thing, long running projects need new ideas and new people to >> continue to move them forward. >> >> The brief summary of the project history in the proposal does make the >> community role look more shallow than it is. If you view the projects >> change history: >> >> http://click.sourceforge.net/docs/roadmap-changes.html >> >> you can see the diversity of the contributions from community members >> made over the life of the project. >> >> I think the Mediocirty section of the proposal should be updated to >> address these concerns. >> >> regards Malcolm Edgar >> >> On Sat, Jul 19, 2008 at 8:03 PM, Andrus Adamchik <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>> >>> On Jul 18, 2008, at 8:59 PM, William A. Rowe, Jr. wrote: >>> >>>> There are no "project leads" at the ASF. All committers who become a >>>> member >>>> of the PMC shall have an equal say in the project. This can cause a great >>>> amount of friction when the project is perceived to be "owned" by a small >>>> subset of the pmc members. Explosions within such projects happen at >>>> least >>>> once a year, sometimes for the better and often for the worse. >>>> >>>> I would have hoped that under Meritocracy, something about the transition >>>> from benevolent dictator to project management committee would be said. >>>> I would like to know, for example, if every committer will become a PPMC >>>> member, or if this is a PPMC of two (Malcolm and Bob). >>> >>> While I agree with the general point, I should add, that "no project leads" >>> does not mean that you should add random people to the PMC, just because >>> they posted a few times on the mailing list or submitted a trivial patch. >>> "Meritocracy" means just that - give and elevate karma of people who make >>> the project happen. I thought it is important to underscore this point, as >>> there is often a fear of a project being hijacked. >>> >>> Andrus >>> >>> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>> For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>> >>> >> >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> >> > > > > -- > Become a Wicket expert, learn from the best: http://wicketinaction.com > Apache Wicket 1.3.4 is released > Get it now: http://www.apache.org/dyn/closer.cgi/wicket/1.3. > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]