I think you mean meritocracy instead of mediocrity :) Martijn
On Sat, Jul 19, 2008 at 2:40 PM, Malcolm Edgar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi All, > > I do take the point that there are no "project leads" in ASF and if > Click were to go throught the incubator process and become a fully > fledged ASF project that this would change. The project would follow > the Apache mediocrity rules. I genuinely belive that this would be a > good thing, long running projects need new ideas and new people to > continue to move them forward. > > The brief summary of the project history in the proposal does make the > community role look more shallow than it is. If you view the projects > change history: > > http://click.sourceforge.net/docs/roadmap-changes.html > > you can see the diversity of the contributions from community members > made over the life of the project. > > I think the Mediocirty section of the proposal should be updated to > address these concerns. > > regards Malcolm Edgar > > On Sat, Jul 19, 2008 at 8:03 PM, Andrus Adamchik <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >> On Jul 18, 2008, at 8:59 PM, William A. Rowe, Jr. wrote: >> >>> There are no "project leads" at the ASF. All committers who become a >>> member >>> of the PMC shall have an equal say in the project. This can cause a great >>> amount of friction when the project is perceived to be "owned" by a small >>> subset of the pmc members. Explosions within such projects happen at >>> least >>> once a year, sometimes for the better and often for the worse. >>> >>> I would have hoped that under Meritocracy, something about the transition >>> from benevolent dictator to project management committee would be said. >>> I would like to know, for example, if every committer will become a PPMC >>> member, or if this is a PPMC of two (Malcolm and Bob). >> >> While I agree with the general point, I should add, that "no project leads" >> does not mean that you should add random people to the PMC, just because >> they posted a few times on the mailing list or submitted a trivial patch. >> "Meritocracy" means just that - give and elevate karma of people who make >> the project happen. I thought it is important to underscore this point, as >> there is often a fear of a project being hijacked. >> >> Andrus >> >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> >> > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > -- Become a Wicket expert, learn from the best: http://wicketinaction.com Apache Wicket 1.3.4 is released Get it now: http://www.apache.org/dyn/closer.cgi/wicket/1.3. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
