> But it is not individuals that propose this particular project, as I 
> understand it: it is IBM and BEA. And it was IBM that, in my view, 
> dumped the JSR 168 RI and then fled - not any individuals as such.

And IBM is also a significant force behind Tuscany, and have definitely not 
fled.  They are also involved in Derby and Geronimo.

> I don't think Apache necessarily is the right place to dump a JSR RI and 
> TCK implementation

I agree.  The ASF is not the right place to dump things.  But it is the right 
place to build a community.

        --- Noel



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