On Mar 13, 2006, at 5:21 PM, Rodent of Unusual Size wrote:

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Noel J. Bergman wrote:

 -- We should require 3+ Mentors for each project
 -- Upon acceptance, we should establish the initial
    PPMC as consisting of the Mentors.

I'd like to add that I think a PPMC is a requirement,
not a 'nice-to-have.'  We have some podlings either
with no PPMCs or with PPMCs instantiated quite late.

I think I'm seeing too much incipient dogmatism here. A little while ago I remember reading about how it was possible for code to zip through the incubator on its way to become part of an existing project, resting only long enough for the legal/provenance questions to be resolved. I think this is still a good path to keep open, and don't see the use of a PPMC for it. I also think that there are all sorts of paths between that and the path of incubating an entirely new project intended to become a TLP. For instance, my understanding is that ActiveMQ is coming to be part of geronimo. It comes with a lot of new committers, as well as a lot of people who are already geronimo committers. To me the main point of incubation is to basically get everyone used to working more closely together, and when we have verified that this is happening, we can bring all the activemq people on board into geronimo. I don't see how a PPMC is going to help this process: it looks to me as if it will get in the way.

thanks
david jencks

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