Hi Eric,
I don't really get how it would increase virus risk. Only bootable disks would
boot, so even if we forget some in the ODD, only a LiveCD or OS disk would
boot, right ? Then where would a virus come from ?
And if it was risky, why every PC had this (floppy>ODD>HDD) as default until
recently ?
Yes this is the idea, we want the good old "check disk and if none boot HDD"
setting back, it would help a lot, more again on those new fast PCs booting on
SSD so fast we don't have more than 1 second to get boot menu.
Live disks we use are mainly Linux distributions and maintenance tools (Ubuntu,
Slax, UBCD, Hiren, etc).
I don't know much about "UEFI boot" but as far as I could see on that machine
UEFI requires secured boot and secured boot prevents the use of any other boot
device than the HDD where Windows 8.1 is installed... yes, that's crap.
No it does not try the next drive if we press a key, it just shows a copy of
the same error message below the first one and so on. All we can do is press
power button 5 seconds to force the PC to turn off. When Asus do wrong, they do
it completely...
Yes it would have been more "clever" to only have a single BIOS setting to
select only a single bootable drive... but Asus probably didn't even think
about it and "forgot" to remove the possibility to set several boot options.
For sure nothing of the above seems to have anything to do with FreeDOS, and
we're convinced Asus put the blame on FreeDOS randomly just to get rid of us,
like "it's not our fault, we are victims of this poorly programmed FreeDOS",
but even if it was the fault of FreeDOS, it was Asus choice to use it so it's
their duty to make it work or propose a solution.
We'd just like an "official" confirmation if FreeDOS can really cause this kind
of problem, and if not then we'll use it against Asus in a trial, and prevent
Asus from sueing FreeDOS.
Regards.
> Date: Tue, 24 Mar 2015 22:14:13 +0100
> From: [email protected]
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: [Freedos-devel] FW: FreeDOS compatibility issue according to Asus
>
>
> Hi Teddy,
>
> as this thread got rather long, I reply to some snippets from
> several of your mails in one single reply mail here :-)
>
> > For the past 20 years, since Windows 95, most (or maybe all) PCs had the HDD
> > as third or forth boot option, mainly after floppy disk and optical drive.
>
> No, that is not a wise setting: It increases virus risk. It is
> better to put floppy and optical before harddisk only on days
> when you actually want to boot from a floppy or optical disk.
>
> And yes, DOS virus of course do exist, but if you boot from a
> CD or DVD, the virus does not care. There can also be a virus
> for Windows or other operating systems on that CD or DVD :-p
>
> > - we need computers capable of using LiveCDs,
>
> I understand that for you and other users it feels convenient
> to select a setting which says "boot from any CD or DVD that
> you can find - if you can not find one, boot from harddisk"...
>
> > - we change all necessary settings in the bios (checked and confirmed ok),
>
> Modern BIOS also often has the option to press a function key at
> boot to get a menu to select which drive you want to boot. This
> is easy for you as user and safer, because the function key has
> effect only when you use it. LiveCD does not stay on permanently.
>
> > - now boot option 1 is ODD and boot option 2 is HDD.
> > - if LiveCD is in ODD = fine, we can use the ODD,
>
> So far so good. Does it support all your LiveCD or only specific
> variants? For example, does it require LiveCD to have UEFI boot?
>
> > - if the ODD is empty = not fine, the PC is unable to boot on HDD as if
> > there was no boot option 2 and it shows error message "Reboot and Select
> > proper Boot device or Insert Boot Media in selected Boot device and press
> > a key_"
>
> I understand your problem here: It does not silently try the next
> drive on the preference list. However, because it is a preference
> LIST, I assume it will try the next drive after you press a key?
>
> Otherwise, it would be more intuitive to only have a single BIOS
> setting to select only a single bootable drive. Not a drive list.
>
> Note that so far, nothing of the above seems to have anything to
> do with FreeDOS. Please explain what makes you (or Asus) think it
> does have any DOS related reason...
>
> Regards, Eric
>
>
>
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