Hi Pete,

Em 03/01/2012 23:14, Pete Batard escreveu:
> Hi Enrique. Thanks for the detailed reply.
You're welcome.
>> In what comes to the persian language, though, I could help.
>>
>> 1) The codepage
>>
>> IBMDOS codepage 1098 for persian is a little better - the guillemets and
>> the riyal currency sign are there but the arabic percent sign is still
>> missing. The multiplication sign is also there. On the other hand, it
>> only presents the same drawing characters available, for instance, on
>> cp850: single, double, the 3 shade characters and 3 out of 5 block
>> characters.
>>
>> A possible approach is for me to have a green light to devise a persian
>> codepage myself, if that would suit you.
> Well, as you may have guessed, I don't speak or read Persian, and I
> don't really have a clear idea of what Persian localized DOS programs
> might be out there, or what the requirements for those might be.
> Whichever seems best to you (or to a native speaker) is 100% fine by me.
> For what is worth, being a cp850 user, and used to cp437 designed apps
> not displaying exactly as intended, I'm not sure the loss off the
> drawing characters is that big a deal. So any choice you pick is fine
> really.
Actually, I had guessed you spoke persian. I like to study languages; I 
know other people who do and I had guessed you were one of them. :)

In a perfect scenario, users would have perfect support for their 
languages *and* all the repertoire of linedraw characters, shades, 
blocks, etc. However, it's not always possible, specially in what comes 
to the persian language, due to the limitation of 128 characters per 
codepage (the upper half).
>> There is the IBM keyboard layout for persian.
> Does that mean that, if diacritics are unavailable, we have to fallback
> to a layout that may not match what is displayed on the physical
> keyboard, i.e. one that has a selection of symbols with diacritics
> already added?
No. Not the case here. Letters and diacritics are displayed separately 
in the keyboard. Diacritics would be typed in a overlapped manner, which 
would not be possible in text mode anyway.
>> As with codepages, I could devise a persian keyboard layout myself.
> I guess it may all depend on how Persian speakers may be familiar with
> an IBM fallback, or whether the layout that you devise would be
> intuitive enough. Not something I can really answer.
Two approaches here.

1) Persian keyboard for persian native speakers living in Iran or dari 
native speakers living in Afghanistan. (Persian and dari are practically 
the same language.) In this case, I would simply encode the layout that 
they're used to.

2) Anyone else (including iranian and afghanis in the diaspora, who 
presumably have never seen a physical keyboard for their language): I 
would prepare a "phonetic" layout on top of a regular US-keyboard, as 
close as possible to the arabic script for persian/dari.
> For the record, I only asked about Korean and Persian because Windows
> seemed to support them, not because I have received any requests to
> support those. My guess would be that most of the Persian people using
> Rufus will probably be OK with a US cp/kb fallback, and those who aren't
> would probably contact this list. Thus it may actually be better to wait
> for native speakers to manifest themselves and hear what their
> preference would be.
You're absolutely right.

Regards,
Henrique


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