Hi Richard, Graeme,

I was out of the office. Thank you for the suggestions. Graeme I'll try to look into it.

Mr Richard, here are the outputs of the commands after I powered both PC and the slave:

lynca@lynca:~$ sudo /usr/local/etc/init.d/ethercat restart
Shutting down EtherCAT master 1.6.8  done
Starting EtherCAT master 1.6.8  done
lynca@lynca:~$ ethercat slave
0  0:0  PREOP  +  Megatec_ESC_NLCH
lynca@lynca:~$ ethercat slaves
0  0:0  PREOP  +  Megatec_ESC_NLCH
lynca@lynca:~$ sudo ethercat state -p0 init
lynca@lynca:~$ ethercat slave
0  0:0  PREOP  E  Megatec_ESC_NLCH
lynca@lynca:~$ sudo ethercat state -p0 preop
lynca@lynca:~$ ethercat slave
0  0:0  PREOP  +  Megatec_ESC_NLCH
lynca@lynca:~$ sudo ethercat reg_read -p0 -tuint32 0x900
0x0af50b04 183831300
lynca@lynca:~$ sudo ethercat reg_read -p0 -tuint64 0x910
0x00000051a7927504 350703744260
lynca@lynca:~$ sudo ethercat reg_read -p0 -tuint16 0x120
0x0001 1
lynca@lynca:~$ sudo ethercat reg_read -p0 -tuint16 0x130
0x0002 2
lynca@lynca:~$

And these are executed while the application is running:

lynca@lynca:~$ sudo ethercat slave
0  0:0  PREOP  E  Megatec_ESC_NLCH
lynca@lynca:~$ sudo ethercat reg_read -p0 -tuint16 0x120
0x0001 1
lynca@lynca:~$ sudo ethercat reg_read -p0 -tuint16 0x130
0x0002 2

The installed ethercat master is 1.6.8 with Mr James Benway's patch  for reading sii from a file (https://github.com/DSI-Gleeble/ethercat/tree/sii-from-file). But I removed the binary sii files so that the master can read from slave as normal.

Can you see something?

Best regards,

Oguz.


On 20-Mar-26 6:34 PM, Richard Hacker wrote:
My suspicion is that your problem is way before the master tries to
configure the slave, as I have said before.

When the master is activated, it jogs the slave through the INIT,
PREOP, SAFEOP and eventually OP states. A slave gets configured (SDO
parameters, PDO setup) between the PREOP and SAFEOP state -- but your
slave never gets there. Your slave might go into INIT, but somehow the
master does not get this state change.

Can you change the slave state from the command line? With your slave
attached but without your application running (i.e. idle free-run bus),
what is the output of:
        ethercat slave
        ethercat state -p0 init
        ethercat slave
        ethercat state -p0 preop
        ethercat slave
        ethercat reg_read -p0 -tuint32 0x900
        ethercat reg_read -p0 -tuint64 0x910
        ethercat reg_read -p0 -tuint16 0x120
        ethercat reg_read -p0 -tuint16 0x130

Now start your application and:
        ethercat state
        ethercat reg_read -p0 -tuint16 0x120
        ethercat reg_read -p0 -tuint16 0x130


-p0 assumes the affedted slave is the first slave in the network.
Adjust accordingly if that is not the case.

On Fri, 2026-03-20 at 00:02 +0000, Graeme Foot wrote:

Hi Oguz,
If this is a potential fix for your slave, you would require more
separation, plus I’m not sure you got your reads vs writes assigned
quite right.  i.e. from your log 0x6000:01 is being assigned to
domain 0 when it looks like it should be assigned to domain 1.
The issue with the Texas Instruments ESC’s in particular is that if
you use one domain the writes (control) and reads (status) are too
close together for the ESC’s syncs to handle gracefully.  E.g.:
+ domain 0 -------------------+
|[slave 0 write][slave 0 read]|
If you split them into two domains you get: + domain 0 -----+ domain 1 ----+
|[slave 0 write]|[slave 0 read]|
Which timing wise is no real difference and still a problem. But if you add a few more slaves (they don’t even need to be online)
you get:
+ domain 0 -------------------------+ domain 1 ----------------------
--+
|[slave 0 write][slave 1 write][...]| [slave 0 read][slave 1
read][...]|
You can see you now have more separation between the slave 0 write
and read.
In your example (apart from the potential incorrect allocation which
could itself cause issues) I don’t think the EL2008 would be enough
to give a big enough separation (only 1 byte?).  Try adding two or
three more of your problem slaves (they’re around 78 bytes each).
Here’s some background info on the Texas Instruments
issue:https://www.ti.com/lit/an/spracj7/spracj7.pdf?ts=1669243747147
  * section 3.1.3 describes the TI ESC not working with non-
overlapping PDOs
  * Section 3.6 describes a malformed packet issue and its
workarounds, due to overlapping PDOs
In our cases where we’ve had problems with slaves our symptoms were:
    1. On assigning the FMMU configuration the slave would stop
forwarding on frames
    2. I think we had one that got stuck in INIT, but can’t remember
for sure
Regards,
Graeme.

From: Bilko AS, Oguz Dilmac <[email protected]>
Sent: Thursday, 19 March 2026 23:49
To: Graeme Foot <[email protected]>;
[email protected]
Subject: Re: [Etherlab-users] Timeout while setting state INIT.
Hi Graeme,
I connected a EK1100 bus coupler and a EL2008 digital output card.
The first slave is the EK1100, and my device stay at the end.
I created two domains
Unfortunately the device still don't go to INIT.
Here, I put my test code and the dmesg output:
https://we.tl/t-Dj1MtId6LA
Best regards,
Oguz.
On 19-Mar-26 1:16 AM, Graeme Foot wrote:
Hi Oguz,
It’s not looking likely to be an SII problem then. From the log it looks like you’re using a single Read/Write
domain.  I don’t recall if you mentioned, have tried putting it in
separate read and write domains?  If you try this, also ensure that
there are at least two other separate read and write domain slaves
also configured in your system.
I’ve had a few slaves in the past (generally with Texas Instruments
ESC’s) that work well with overlapped PDO’s in a single Read/Write
domain (TwinCat’s default method), but fail when the PDO’s are not
overlapped (EtherLab’s default).  If this is the case you can put
them in separate read and write domains to separate them within the
EtherCat frame.  But, you need to ensure there’s a couple of other
read and write domain devices also configured to ensure there’s
enough separation in the frame.
Graeme.

From: Bilko AS, Oguz Dilmac<[email protected]>
Sent: Thursday, 19 March 2026 02:33
To: Graeme Foot <[email protected]>; Richard
Hacker<[email protected]>; [email protected];
[email protected]
Subject: Re: [Etherlab-users] Timeout while setting state INIT.
Hi,
I noticed, the correct path with option is: "--enable-sii-
override=/lib/firmware"
This way, the master can find my ec_xxx.bin file. But still at the
end, slave doesn't respond to go INIT command.
Here is the dmesg output:
https://we.tl/t-BGDmNzZv2b
Best regards,
Oguz.
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Oguz Dilmac
Bilko AS, R&D Manager
====================================
Perpa Ticaret Merkezi B Blok Kat 13 Nr. 2536
TR-34384 Okmeydani Istanbul Turkey
Tel : +90 212 563 00 00
e-mail : [email protected]
web site : http://www.bilko-automation.com
https://www.youtube.com/@LyncaCNC

--
Oguz Dilmac

Bilko AS, R&D Manager
====================================
Perpa Ticaret Merkezi B Blok Kat 13 Nr. 2536
TR-34384 Okmeydani Istanbul Turkey
Tel : +90 212 563 00 00
e-mail : [email protected]
web site : http://www.bilko-automation.com
https://www.youtube.com/@LyncaCNC


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