On 09/12/2013 08:40, Nex6 wrote:
> * Carsten Haitzler <[email protected]> [2013-12-08 21:42:25 +0900]:
> 
>> On Sun, 8 Dec 2013 10:25:04 +0000 Mick <[email protected]> said:
>>
>>> On Sunday 08 Dec 2013 01:48:18 Steven@e wrote:
>>>>>> Hello beber, just for information, you dont need FUSE anymore to use
>>>>>> ZFS.  zfsonlinux solves this.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks for the info, but why should we need this ? I see no valid
>>>>> reason.
>>>
>>> There are out-of-tree Linux kernel modules care of ZFSOnLinux Project[1].  
>>> Therefore using ZFS-Fuse is not necessary (or recommended).  At least one 
>>> valid reason for using ZFS (there are many) is that it guards against fs 
>>> corruption by using CRC checksums.
>>>
>>> I understand that both Oracle (RHL) Linux and SUSE consider BTRFS 
>>> production 
>>> ready and Oracle will be/are using this instead of ZFS.  From my limited 
>>> understanding BTRFS is being developed at speed and catching up with ZFS, 
>>> but 
>>> it does not have the amount of testing that ZFS had to date to vouch for 
>>> its 
>>> stability/maturity.  At this stage in their development ZFS is superior to 
>>> BTRFS in terms of functionality, although there is hope that BTRFS will 
>>> develop at speed.
>>
>> and why? ext4 HAS been production ready for YEARS... inf act not production
>> ready... it has been *IN8 production for years... if there is a fs i would
>> trust - it's ext4. not zfs and DEFINITELY not btrfs. ext4 (and 3 etc. before
>> it) have many more miles of PRODUCTION behind them.
>>
>> what this probably was ... was an unstable bleeding-edge kernel since the
>> servers are being run on gentoo and thus are not exactly being conservative. 
>> it
>> was probably a newly introduced bug that hasn't been hammered out and other
>> fs's used less will have such bugs many times MORE than ext4 will.
> 
> I am going to chime in and give my 2 cents. for filesystems, on production
> servers I tell our ops guys only use ext4 or xfs thats it. 


Gentoo on critical production server that face the public without a
proper QA staging setup? Good lord, that's a scary thought. I banned
gentoo from production around here.

Lest anyone think I'm a gentoo-hater, my personal workstation:


$ uname -a
Linux khamul 3.12.3-gentoo #1 SMP PREEMPT Sun Dec 8 00:13:02 SAST 2013
             ^^^^^^^^^^^^^

-- 
Alan McKinnon
[email protected]


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