On Sun, 8 Dec 2013 21:42:25 +0900 Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) <[email protected]> wrote:
> On Sun, 8 Dec 2013 10:25:04 +0000 Mick <[email protected]> > said: > > > On Sunday 08 Dec 2013 01:48:18 Steven@e wrote: > > > >> Hello beber, just for information, you dont need FUSE anymore > > > >> to use ZFS. zfsonlinux solves this. > > > > > > > > Thanks for the info, but why should we need this ? I see no > > > > valid reason. > > > > There are out-of-tree Linux kernel modules care of ZFSOnLinux > > Project[1]. Therefore using ZFS-Fuse is not necessary (or > > recommended). At least one valid reason for using ZFS (there are > > many) is that it guards against fs corruption by using CRC > > checksums. > > > > I understand that both Oracle (RHL) Linux and SUSE consider BTRFS > > production ready and Oracle will be/are using this instead of ZFS. > > From my limited understanding BTRFS is being developed at speed and > > catching up with ZFS, but it does not have the amount of testing > > that ZFS had to date to vouch for its stability/maturity. At this > > stage in their development ZFS is superior to BTRFS in terms of > > functionality, although there is hope that BTRFS will develop at > > speed. > > and why? ext4 HAS been production ready for YEARS... inf act not > production ready... it has been *IN8 production for years... if there > is a fs i would trust - it's ext4. not zfs and DEFINITELY not btrfs. > ext4 (and 3 etc. before it) have many more miles of PRODUCTION behind > them. Absolutely. The other filesystems are amazing in their feature sets, but are not viable production filesystems quite yet in my opinion. > > what this probably was ... was an unstable bleeding-edge kernel since > the servers are being run on gentoo and thus are not exactly being > conservative. it was probably a newly introduced bug that hasn't been > hammered out and other fs's used less will have such bugs many times > MORE than ext4 will. > > Gentoo is a great desktop distro, but definitely not a server OS (may cause a flame war here, but sorry...). For me, and I've been a sysadmin since Debian first came out (yes, that long), and I've used literally all distros at one time or another. Debian stable (or even testing) is an ideal server OS you can absolutely rely on. I would not use anything else. If you absolutely must use gentoo for some feature only it provides, then only use it in the VM - definitely NOT on the host. The host must be rock solid. But, if rebuilding the setup is on the radar in light of this wake up call, the filesystem argument is totally moot - just use LVM for the images. It's the correct thing to do for a production VM host. -- Regards, Christopher Barry Random geeky fortune: One does not thank logic. -- Sarek, "Journey to Babel", stardate 3842.4 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Sponsored by Intel(R) XDK Develop, test and display web and hybrid apps with a single code base. Download it for free now! http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=111408631&iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk _______________________________________________ enlightenment-users mailing list [email protected] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
