On 2002.05.24 22:05 Linus Torvalds wrote:
> 
> 
> On Fri, 24 May 2002, Jos� Fonseca wrote:
> >
> > Keith P., even very recentely it was discussed on the Xpert mailing
> list
> > that the XFree86 project didn't have the manpower to handle all the
> > patches that are being submited regularly.
> 
> >From personal experience, it doesn't get better, it only gets worse.
> Once
> you start falling behind, it just gets harder and harder to catch up. My
> personal approach for the kernel ends up just accepting when I have to
> trust people, and then accepting their patches and judgement with only a
> very high-level filter at that point.
> 
> > How do you propose that we channel fixes to the XFree86 CVS? (IMHO:
> More
> > a reason to have bugzilla, give CVS access to more people and so on..)
> 
> I don't personally much like CVS because it ends up being so painful to
> branch for small temporary projects, and I have never _ever_ seen a clean
> merge back, but yes, I do think that the core DRI people should just have
> write access to the general XF86 tree, and use _that_ as the main one (or
> the other way around, of course, although I have this feeling that it is
> politically easier to use the XF86 tree).

Not only politically reason, but the DRI CVS tree is just a partial and 
not a full XFree86 tree, i.e., some of the stuff is not included, and 
that's why it's necessary to have a matching XFree86 release installed on 
your system.

> Two separate CVS trees just does not work. CVS isn't designed to help
> that
> case at all, causing just extra work for everybody. It results in merges
> being very occasional, and way more painful than they should be.

You're not trying to sell a widely known and rather polemical piece of 
software, are you? ;-)

Seriously, the DRI stuff does live in seperate directories, with the sole 
exception of the 2D driver, many of which have different maintainers in 
the XFree86 project scope. So there is a strong physical seperation of the 
DRI code in the XFree86 tree. So, more than the time that takes to merge 
trees, it would be the sinergy of both projects. (My primarily concern is 
that the lack of manpower and tight policies of the XFree86 project would 
drag us down instead of boosting).

Jos� Fonseca

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