On 12/23/2025 19:12, John R Levine wrote:
I hadn't realized this is what you were referring to in your earlier note.  I don't believe that changes the analysis. ...

I happen to think that much of your analysis is wrong, but here's a key question:

If we do nothing about this RFC, which is what we've been doing for the past 25 years, exactly what bad things will happen?

My analysis is basically - "The I* does not own .US and can't set policy for it"  1480 is a snapshot of policy from back when Jon Postel was setting policy for that domain and has applicability only in context with the existing 2025 contracts for .US. It is not a document we can or should modify.

But you're asking a question that really doesn't have a good answer since predicting the future is hard.  It would be a good thing if the I* cleaned up after itself. There may be no problems in the future, or there may be litigation assuming property rights to LDs that don't actually exist or any of a number of other disconnects.  The I* is out of (was never in) the business of managing .US. Perhaps the relevant  documents and their states should reflect reality and leave it at that.

So to reverse your question:

If we change this RFC's status to Historic, exactly what bad things will happen?



I think my concern is reasonable that if we do change it, people will misinterpret "historic" as something has changed about us Locality Administrators and will imagine that the 3LDs I've been running for 30 years might go away.  At least one person in this discussion has said as much.

John - you're running those LDs on sufferance from NTIA and Neustar and those are the only "people" who could "misinterpret" "historic" and do something with actual consequences.  If they want the delegations to go away, the domains will go away or become undelegated back to Neustar.  I'm not so much worried about what someone reading the RFC will think as I am with what the actual .US owners might do.

Right now there's very little money associated with your LDs so not a lot of interest in taking them away from you.  If you were running ny.ny.us, the analysis might be different.

There is NO relationship between you being able to keep your LDs and whether or not RFC1480 is moved to Historic.


R's,
John

PS: Fun fact: a friend of mine just applied to be the locality administrator for his town in Massachusetts.  We'll see what happens.

Given the text that Warren quoted from the relevant documents, I would expect a denial.

Later, Mike



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