On Tuesday 21 February 2006 22:57, Nick Phillips wrote:

> "Bugger. NameError at /admin/foo/bar/person/1/delete/
> global name 'ObjectDoesNotExist' is not defined. What have I let
> myself in for here? I mean, does anyone actually *run* this magic-
> removal stuff?"
>
>
> If it weren't for the fact that I need to get this running pronto,
> I'd be holding off and waiting for magic-removal to stabilise.
> Knowing what I do now, I don't know whether I'd use magic-removal --
> damned if I do, damned if I don't.
>
> So yes, you're absolutely right. And my timing is, as usual, awful.

I guess it is kind of inevitable that a branch in which lots of syntax 
changes are going on, and is a continual moving target, isn't going to 
attract lots of of users.  And because it doesn't have many users, 
progress is slow etc.  I apologise for my part that I haven't had the 
time to finish off all I've wanted to (although most stuff is actually 
done -- Adrian did a lot of it, and I think the bulk of the descriptor 
syntax changes were done in week, but things have stagnated since 
then).

I think it's important that people start migrating apps and trying it 
out though, but probably not people with deadlines!  In the spare time 
I've had, I've been alternating between hacking on Django and migrating 
my app, and it has thrown up lots of things and driven development 
forward.  But finding people who have both the time to do that and 
enough skill to track down problems and contribute patches to the ORM 
(which is the scariest part of the code) is problematic. (Don't 
misunderstand me -- I was amazed how quickly I got productive on the 
ORM, and it's all down to how very well written it is, but it is 
nonetheless not the easiest part).

For now, if you have deadlines then trunk is the way to go (yep, bad 
timing for that advice, sorry).  While migration will be a bit of a 
pain and tedious, it will at least be reasonably straightforward.

Sorry for the difficulties you've had,

Regards,

Luke

-- 
"Oh, look. I appear to be lying at the bottom of a very deep, dark 
hole. That seems a familiar concept. What does it remind me of? Ah, I 
remember. Life."  (Marvin the paranoid android)

Luke Plant || L.Plant.98 (at) cantab.net || http://lukeplant.me.uk/

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