Luke Lollard wrote:
Wow... I did not expect such a response! I'll tackle the quick topics
first and save the meat for the end of the email. I apologize if this
isn't proper mailing list etiquette to reply to all in one email, but to
me it's better than sending 7+ separate replies.
I'm happy to work together on this, if you'd like, but I'm unlikely
to publish much if I'm left to my own devices. We can hop on a call
to discuss if you like.
Steven, I replied to your last email directly: let's continue the
discussion there.
There is also an official GNUstep channel at IRC, a live chat server,
at Libera:
gry, I messaged you. I've been on it for a short time, but it doesn't
seem very active.
We have moved most of our real time chat to Zulip
Ethan, this was something I didn't want to bring up on my original list
of grievances... I've witnessed less activity on the Zulip than the
Libera IRC channel. It just seems like another Slack clone to remind me
how much I hate Slack when I'm not at work. I'm not opposed to something
like IRC, but it looks like good old mailing lists are still where most
prefer to communicate for this. Thankfully mailing lists aren't going
anywhere anytime soon.
I Could find some moments in the next months to help on that topic
Jm, any help will probably be appreciated. Overall, I think this is a
big project that will take more than a few months, given that this is
volunteer work and it's been a problem for years.
on Saturday the 8th of March 2025 our monthly GNUstep meeting takes
place
Lars, thank you for bringing that up. Unfortunately, I will be
unavailable at that time. How can I know when these meetings will be so
that I can try to fit them into my schedule in the future?
I am currently very busy but I am the maintainer of the new website
draft at https://gnustep.github.io/.
With that said is gnustep.org being replaced with gnustep.github.io?
no, www.gnustep.org is not being replaced by gnustep.github.io . The
latter is being used to make a documentation website using different
tools.
Is this going to be the official location for GNUstep documentation
moving forward? If not, having gnustep.github.io be an official part of
GNUstep is confusing.
Thinking back to the "legacy" Cocoa documentation, it was one of the
most delightful and comforting aspects of it. It was thoughtfully put
together and it was complete. GNUstep may have implemented many of
Cocoa's technical accomplishments, but has fallen short on this less
glamorous, yet critical, side of software.
Apparently, we fully agree on that. A small dream would be to
automatically convert autogsdoc information to HelpViewer format.
Past attempts (including the example provided) were unusably buggy and
adding a new backend to autogsdoc is not easy either.
I found about 270 broken links with a link checking tool for
www.gnustep.org.
Would the best approach to this be some type of project tracker? Nothing
fancy, just a collaborative place where we can collect, organize, and
prioritize all of these issues; then tackle fixing them so we don't
waste time on the same work. A markdown file on GitHub is enough for me,
though something a little more advanced could help us be more efficient.
I don't think a file you need a commit or save (that's what Wiki does)
is an efficient way to do it.
Riccardo, alas, I am out of time. I still have many more questions about
this though, and it seems like you're the person I was looking to
contact. My original intent was to figure out the best way to assist
with the literature/documentation as it's truly too much for one man.
Would you prefer I email you directly?
Email for me is fine. For work on the Wiki, just ask for an account. It
is not public because we where overwhelmed with spam accounts.
We also have a webmaster mailing list. Might make sense to use it, if
you wish.
Riccardo
