Yes, it's a big requirement for a lot of people using OFX that they be able to use also Xcode and / or Visual Studio. But QBS was at some point (not sure if still the case) the main one.

On 30/10/2018 22:25, Иван Комиссаров wrote:
Huh? Looks like they are supporting every build system alive https://github.com/openframeworks/openFrameworks/tree/patch-release/libs/openFrameworksCompiled/project

30 окт. 2018 г., в 22:14, Jean-Michaël Celerier <jeanmichael.celer...@gmail.com <mailto:jeanmichael.celer...@gmail.com>> написал(а):

OpenFrameworks, a fairly used creative coding framework has been using QBS for a few years. My experience with it in that context has been quite negative - a year ago it would break on every new QBS release, so you had to use an exact QBS version if you wanted to use OFX (exhibit A: https://forum.openframeworks.cc/t/qtcreator-v4-3-1-qbs-problem/27214), so multiple people I know have ended up porting OF to use CMake instead : https://github.com/ofnode/of which frankly worked better and with less breakage. As always, mileage may vary.


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On Tue, Oct 30, 2018 at 10:07 PM Thiago Macieira <thiago.macie...@intel.com <mailto:thiago.macie...@intel.com>> wrote:

    On Tuesday, 30 October 2018 13:47:00 PDT Oswald Buddenhagen wrote:
    > On Tue, Oct 30, 2018 at 12:53:48PM -0700, Thiago Macieira wrote:
    > > On Tuesday, 30 October 2018 12:29:46 PDT Oswald Buddenhagen
    wrote:
    > > > doesn't authorize you to impose requirements that make it
    basically
    > > > impossible to employ qt as a bootstrapping device for a qbs
    > > > ecosystem.
    > >
    > > The whole point was "let Qt not be the guinea pig".
    >
    > you're essentially presuming that qbs is developed by a potentially
    > incompetent external entity.

    No. However, I am asking for proof.

    > > Show me that the tool can achieve what Qt needs for it to achieve
    >
    > qtbase//wip/qbs2 speaks for itself.

    That's the guinea pig. I am asking for proof by seeing someone
    else adopt it.
    The tool is now several years old, it ought to have attracted
    *someone*.

    And even if it hasn't, there are a couple of years left until we
    switch for
    Qt. The community supporting this tool can find other projects of
    moderate
    complexity to work with and support.

    > > and has enough of a track record of a community to ask for help.
    >
    > it has enough "community" and intrinsic quality to get things
    going.

    I'm not disputing it has quality. But it lacks a specific
    community I called
    for: packagers.

    Tell me, has anyone tried to build that branch in the Boot2Qt
    context?

    > asking for more is completely unreasonable before the community
    from
    > which the tool originates shows committment by *relying* on it.
    and as
    > the current situation shows, everyone who didn't trust the
    story was
    > *right*.

    I disagree and I find it completely reasonable to ask. That's why
    I did so.

    And yes, they were right: if qbs is created for Qt alone, then
    they shouldn't
    rely on it. Hence the request to show that it can be used by
    others and that
    there's at least a modest community behind it.

    There has been enough time to get more adoption and there's still
    time left.
    So get someone else to adopt it.

-- Thiago Macieira - thiago.macieira (AT) intel.com <http://intel.com/>
      Software Architect - Intel Open Source Technology Center



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