On Wed, Mar 4, 2026, at 9:27 AM, Neal Gompa wrote:
> On Wed, Mar 4, 2026 at 6:13 AM Michel Lind <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> > On Tue, 2026-03-03 at 13:30 -0800, Neal Gompa wrote:
> > > On Tue, Mar 3, 2026 at 12:45 PM Michael Catanzaro
> > > <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > On Tue, Mar 3 2026 at 11:48:18 AM -08:00:00, Neal Gompa
> > > > <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > > > * ABRT UI needs a better flow for connecting to RHBZ
> > > >
> > > > Are we going to phase out Red Hat Bugzilla or not? I think yes,
> > > > because
> > > > Red Hat won't continue maintaining it forever, right? Let's focus
> > > > effort on the future, not on functionality that soon won't matter.
> > > >
> > >
> > > Okay, I'll generalize it then: connecting to Bugzilla.
> > >
> > Connecting to an issue tracker, more like? I think what Michael is
> > getting at is that any effort to improving ABRT Bugzilla integration is
> > wasted given it's a legacy platform.
> >
> 
> RHBZ might be a legacy platform, but I will still continue to advocate
> that we should migrate to a new Fedora Bugzilla instance powered by
> upstream Bugzilla. There are no other good options that are open
> source, and at least Bugzilla has people who will take money for
> improving things in the direction we want.

What 5 things should Fedora Infrastructure drop in order to make this happen. 
Bug tracking systems require a lot of specialized knowledge to keep running 
because of the many things you find below as needed. They need a DBA, regular 
maintenance and handholding to keep going, and a bunch of other things which 
would basically need to drop a lot of other services. At the moment, this is a 
zero to negative sum game. For every new neat thing people want, several things 
currently working mosat likely have to be EOL.


> I really don't want to contemplate using Forgejo for bug tracking
> because that would be extremely painful as a maintainer. Bugzilla has
> rich query reports, structured data input modeling, and a useful API
> for automation and lifecycling bugs. Not to mention it has nice things
> like stable bug IDs regardless of component or ownership, global
> reporter/assignment scope, and relationship modeling.
> 
> And of course, there are lots of external and internal integrations
> with Bugzilla that carrying over to a new instance would be
> tremendously easier.
> 
> 
> 
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