HI Tom, I think you mixed up between Twill and Clutch?
As for Twill, we are seeing potential new committers but bit missing on the stickiness to I am sure some projects outside use Twill already. I think graduation is just another stepping stone for project to grow. Hoping in the near future more new committers will be coming to contribute. - Henry On Tue, Feb 2, 2016 at 3:20 AM, Tom White <[email protected]> wrote: > It is indeed a small podling, but I think Twill has demonstrated it is > ready to graduate. > > One thing I noticed from the Clutch report was that no new committers > have been added since the start of graduation [1]. Is this because of > a lack of suitable candidates? > > Tom > > [1] http://incubator.apache.org/clutch.html > > On Mon, Feb 1, 2016 at 6:25 PM, Henry Saputra <[email protected]> > wrote: > > Thanks Terence. > > > > Would love to hear more thoughts about the graduation proposal. > > > > Other Mentors (other than Patrick whom have been contributed this > already), > > we rarely ask for help but this is definitely one of time we need your > > opinions. > > > > - Henry > > > > On Sun, Jan 31, 2016 at 4:20 PM, Terence Yim <[email protected]> wrote: > >> > >> Hi Henry, > >> > >> Thanks for initiating the discussion about graduation. > >> > >> About the subscribers of the dev@list, it is currently have 60 > >> subscribers, > >> comparing to 27 about a year ago (01/31/16 vs 01/22/15). > >> > >> Terence > >> > >> On Sat, Jan 30, 2016 at 11:08 AM, Henry Saputra < > [email protected]> > >> > >> wrote: > >> > >> > HI Patrick, > >> > > >> > Sorry for the late reply, was trying the time to gather the > information. > >> > > >> > If you look at the email archive [1] you can see the dev@ list > contains > >> > good amount of emails. > >> > This include messages from Github Pull Requests mirror and JIRA > >> > discussions. > >> > The new features development and design had always been made to public > >> > for > >> > discussions. > >> > > >> > I am not admin for dev@ list so I do not have numbers about how many > >> > increase of subscriber. > >> > > >> > And the community has released about 7 good releases [2] > >> > > >> > From start of incubation it added only 1 new PPMCs member but it is > not > >> > because lack of trying. > >> > The community has presented in Apache Con 2014 [3] and add information > >> > to > >> > public sites [4] [5]. > >> > > >> > More importantly, the mentors had not needed to add any advice other > >> > than > >> > validate the report. > >> > The releases made were one of the easiest ones to vote for. > >> > > >> > Putting my IPMC hat on, I do not see any reason for Twill to be in > >> > incubator anymore. > >> > > >> > Thanks, > >> > > >> > - Henry > >> > > >> > > >> > [1] http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-twill-dev/ > >> > [2] https://archive.apache.org/dist/incubator/twill/ > >> > [3] > >> > > >> > > >> > > http://apacheconnorthamerica2014.sched.org/event/875342b2235e30ec53057352ac7df111 > >> > [4] > >> > > >> > > >> > > http://www.infoworld.com/article/2609460/hadoop/meet-apache-twill--the-newest-member-of-club-hadoop.html > >> > [5] > >> > > >> > > >> > > https://jaxenter.com/developing-distributed-applications-with-apache-twill-107728.html > >> > > >> > On Mon, Jan 18, 2016 at 9:37 PM, Patrick Hunt <[email protected]> > wrote: > >> > > >> > > Hi Henry, thanks for sending this out. Strictly looking at the > >> > > graduation requirements on the incubator wikis I think you're in > >> > > pretty good shape. I agree the community is small, but that might > just > >> > > be the way the project is. More the question is is it an open > >> > > community that understands the Apache Way and is ready for tlp > status. > >> > > Can you provide some quantitative insight into progress? E.g. number > >> > > of pmc added, committers, etc... diversity of the community. Growth > of > >> > > the mailing lists. Some hard numbers that could provide concrete > >> > > insight and help with the evaluation. > >> > > > >> > > I was recently involved in a discussion on the incubator list around > >> > > Sentry graduation. During that discussion someone mentioned the > >> > > following document which it seems some folks are using to evaluate > >> > > graduation readiness. It's not a requirement of graduation, but how > do > >> > > you feel the project stacks up when evaluated against it? > >> > > > >> > > >> > > https://community.apache.org/apache-way/apache-project-maturity-model.html > >> > > > >> > > Regards, > >> > > > >> > > Patrick > >> > > > >> > > On Thu, Jan 14, 2016 at 9:23 PM, Henry Saputra > >> > > <[email protected]> > >> > > wrote: > >> > > > HI All, > >> > > > > >> > > > I would like to bring up graduation of Apache Twill as top level > >> > project. > >> > > > > >> > > > The community has released several successful releases and have > >> > expanded > >> > > > the PPMC to show openness, and also have done all discussions and > >> > > > development in the open following the Apache way. > >> > > > > >> > > > The podling is indeed small, and so far has not attract much > >> > > contributions > >> > > > from outside world. > >> > > > I think it is bc most development apps for YARN are done mostly by > >> > > > framework developers which sometimes don't mind to spend boiler > >> > > > plate > >> > in > >> > > > exchange for closer control to the lower APIs. > >> > > > > >> > > > However, I believe Twill community has nothing left to learn by > >> > > > staying > >> > > in > >> > > > the incubator. > >> > > > > >> > > > Any thoughts and comments are welcomed. > >> > > > > >> > > > - Henry > >> > > > >> > > > > > >
