2017-06-01 15:05 GMT+03:00 Coty Sutherland <csuth...@redhat.com>:
> Hi,
>
> On Wed, May 31, 2017 at 12:08 PM, Igal @ Lucee.org <i...@lucee.org> wrote:
>> Hi all,
>>
>> On 5/31/2017 1:12 AM, Mark Thomas wrote:
>>>
>>> On 31/05/17 04:07, Coty Sutherland wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I've been thinking about things that we could do for Tomcat to help
>>>> bring in new contributors and to be more appealing to new developers.
>>>
>>> https://helpwanted.apache.org/
>>
>>
>> I would like to offer the perspective of the "new contributor" here.  I, for
>> one, would love to contribute and be more involved with the Tomcat project,
>> and I believe that thanks to Tomcat's popularity there are many out there
>> just like me.
>>
>> As a new contributor, the most important thing is to get some feedback.  The
>> "worst" thing from a new contributor's perspective is that he/she will put
>> much time into work that will never be looked at, and all that time will go
>> to waste.
>
> I agree :) Thanks for the feedback. By voicing concerns like these we
> can get them addressed.
>
>> We understand that not all contributions will be accepted, and that they
>> must adhere to the standards set by the project.  We also realize that this
>> is open source, and that the people who review the submission are usually
>> volunteers who do the best they can in the time that they can afford to
>> contribute to the project.
>>
>> We still need, however, to get some feedback on our submitted work in a
>> timely manner before we can try again, or submit some other work.

1. Do you read dev@tomcat ?

Do you review others' commits?

Do you test release candidates?

For me, new contributions come after that.

>> Take for example the PRs on Github (sorry, but SVN feels like the 1980s --
>> great time for partying, not so much for writing code -- and I know,
>> ironically the SVN project started in 2000, but I digress):
>> https://github.com/apache/tomcat/pulls
>
> Hm, using Git was mentioned at the TomcatCon but I can't recall if the
> git repository on github is bi-directional or just a clone of svn. Can
> anyone answer that?

2. ASF Git repository is read-only mirror of svn repository.
Github repository is mirror of ASF Git repository.

It is possible to use git-svn bridge to commit to svn with git commands
(git-svn metadata are present in commits and it is possible),
but I prefer to overlap git checkout over svn working copy
and commit with svn.

This way it is easier to review.

> Have we made a decision about the best way to
> submit patches? BZ attachment, github PR, email, other? How often do
> we check the github projects for contributions?

3. The work-to-do is tracked via Bugzilla.
The changelog file references Bugzilla.

Thus it is better when a PR references a Bugzilla issue.

For me, PRs are equivalent to attached patches.

Best regards,
Konstantin Kolinko

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