On Fri, Aug 8, 2008 at 9:00 AM, Tero Saarni <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> On Fri, Aug 8, 2008 at 08:56, Shane Bryan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > One other piece of info that may be interesting to folks, if you plan to
> > develop apps for Moblin2, is that we're be moving to clutter and box2d
> based
> > applications to take advantage of cool 2D/3D animation and physical
> behavior
> > models in apps.  Traditional GTK apps should still run, just no look as
> > clean and integrated with the native Moblin application experience.
>
> What kind of elements "native" Moblin 2 applications will be built of?
>  Since Clutter is basically just a scene graph and animation library
> it does not provide common components for interaction (like buttons,
> menus...) or integrated look&feel.  Are you planning something on top
> of Clutter?
>

We have plans for the development of a set of "widgets" for  common
behaviors
and interactions, but honestly, much of this is still in the thought phase
with
some prototyping being done but no libraries or examples yet.  I know it's
not
much help for those who want to jump right in, but we really are trying to
blaze
new trails here and escape the trap of flat, 2D, rigid applications and user

interactions and take advantage of HW accellerated 3D capabilities that fit
into
the small form factor targeted devices.

Some ideas have been shared on moblin.org/playground, and I would encourage
folks to explore the site, or better yet, register and start sharing your
own ideas
as well.

In the mean time, start learning how to build clutter apps and the box2d
bindings
for it.

Of a personal interest, since I wrote the original Moblin Theme Guide, I'd
be
interested in a dialog and ideas on how we might approach the problem of
theming in Moblin2, or as you put it, "integrated look&feel".  Today, there
is
not any way to "theme" clutter apps and this is a problem I've started to
consider
needing to be solved.  It's not going to happen soon, as I'm about to head
out on
vacation with my family for 2 weeks, bit I'm starting to collect thoughts
and ideas
on how clutter could be extended, or a moblin library created, that provides
for
both end user and OEM/OSV customization or branding.

Thanks for the good questions, keep them coming,

Shane...

PS: Hop on irc.freenode.net/#moblin and keep up the dialog.  My nick is
sabotage.
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