On 23 Jul., 11:56, Nelson B Bolyard <nel...@bolyard.me> wrote:

Hello Nelson

> As for Udo's rants, Udo has reported that two of the users he was trying
> to help have subsequently resolved their own problems without his help.
> Maybe Udo is just unhappy that he had more problems with this stuff than
> the users he was trying to help did.  Maybe Udo will have more success
> with ROT13.

Thanks for thinking I'm stupid.
I never said that two people resolved their problems without me.
The first one fixed his outlook/thawte freemail cert problem - but the
problem I mentioned was that TB said his broken email was signed -
which it clearly wasn't.
That bug still persists.
And I've written you an email with a p12 attached because the problem
with the different keystores isn't resolved either. If you didn't get
it I can send it again.

> The only people who have trouble with PKI are the people who try to be
> their own CAs using OpenSSL, after reading some web page that repeats
> the nonsense that real CAs add no value and anyone can successfully be
> his own CA with OpenSSL in 5 minutes.  Many (most?) users who try it,
> find and repeat the lesson that there's more to being a CA than there is
> to being a PGP user.  Ranting about that is like people who try and fail
> to repair their own automobiles ranting at the automobile manufacturers.
>
> Now, finally, I'll put on my forum moderator hat and remind participants
> that this is a developer forum, for developers of NSS and developers of
> software that uses NSS.  The place for people who failed to be their own
> CA using OpenSSL is alt.CA.wannabee.rants.

I'm fairly certain I haven't even mentioned the word openssl, let
alone CA generated from that.

But if you want me ROT13 user to shut up that's fine.
One last note: maybe you think that your software works without
problems is because users who have problems are afraid to ask here and
I know from experience that bugreports in bugzilla often get closed/
neglected ~2 years after the post without a solution.

Regards
Udo Pütz (rot13 doesn't work too good with umlauts, does it?)
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