Daniel, just a few more... Daniel Dreymann wrote: > OK, so we agree that an EV without reputation should NOT provide > benefits, yes? "EV" stands for extended validation...if this isn't a benefit than tell me what is (yes, I know...it's called GoodMail so don't mention that) > So, we, at Goodmail, not only provide the "EV" Which I highly doubt...are you verifying the senders identity in person or through an RA? > but we also monitor the sender's reputation in real time How? Until you receive a complaint? Like in black lists? You said that you don't know about the content nor the receiving party... > and we control > privileges at the source (before sending) not by blocking on the > receive end. > Oh I guess the sender can continue sending mail, just not through your system, correct? > and the hacker can't use it to spoof a bank. Note that not only the > domain but all 3 components of the email address (domain, user part, > friendly display name) need to be pre-registered with us. > So in order for this to be useful, everybody and everyone has to use your service? I guess that people continue to receive regular unsigned mail as well, so this wouldn't bother Joe Hacker too much...important to him that the message arrives at the target. > > Moreover, you can outright block senders or filter them out, etc. In > other words: the guarantee we give to senders is that the MAILBOX > PROVIDER won't block the messages or suppress mages -- individual > users may do as they wish. >
Which in other words is simply another indicator for the spam filter, like SPF records, black lists and S/MIME.... > If not for our reputation monitoring, mailbox providers would not > guarantee the privileges they do. Which again confirms that this is all about preventing spam (and phishing) and nothing else...I wonder why you don't agree to this. Interestingly your system can't block a sender until a complaint comes in and the complaint has been verified. Now again, where is the difference to Google's black list of phishing sites and DSBL and similar black lists....please convince me! -- Regards Signer: Eddy Nigg, StartCom Ltd. <http://www.startcom.org> Jabber: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <xmpp:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Blog: Join the Revolution! <http://blog.startcom.org> Phone: +1.213.341.0390 _______________________________________________ dev-tech-crypto mailing list dev-tech-crypto@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/dev-tech-crypto