I'm confused. How are keywords not permissionless? I frequently see new bugs filed with the first keyword from the sorted list ("ateam-something-or-other") by people who seem to be intent on "just filing a bug in bugzilla", that is otherwise contentless. I must assume that these people have no bugzilla permission bits set other than those granted new accounts.

~ Gijs

On 08/06/2016 22:08, Patrick McManus wrote:
as you note the whiteboard tags are permissionless. That's their killer property. Keywords as you note are not, that's their critical weakness.

instead of fixing that situation in the "long term" can we please fix that as a precondition of converting things? Mozilla doesn't need more centralized systems. If they can't be 100% automated to be permissionless (e.g. perhaps because they don't scale) then the new arrangement of things is definitely worse.

I'll note that even for triage, our eventual system evolved rapidly and putting an administrator in the middle to add and drop keywords and indicies would have just slowed stuff down. Permissionless to me is a requirement.


On Wed, Jun 8, 2016 at 2:43 PM, Kartikaya Gupta <kgu...@mozilla.com <mailto:kgu...@mozilla.com>> wrote:

    What happens after June 24? Is the whiteboard field going to be
    removed?

    On Wed, Jun 8, 2016 at 4:32 PM, Emma Humphries <e...@mozilla.com
    <mailto:e...@mozilla.com>> wrote:
    > tl;dr -- nominate whiteboard tags you want converted to
    keywords. Do it by
    > 24 June 2016.
    >
    > We have a love-hate relationship with the whiteboard field in
    bugzilla. On
    > one hand, we can add team-specific meta data to a bug. On the
    other hand,
    > it's not a indexed field or a real tag system, making it hard to
    parse,
    > search, and update.
    >
    > But creating keywords is a hassle since you have to request them.
    >
    > The long term solution is to turn whiteboard into proper tag
    system, but
    > the Bugzilla Team's offering to help with some bulk conversion of
    > whiteboard tags your teams use into keywords.
    >
    > To participate:
    >
    > 1. Create a Bug in the bugzilla.mozilla.org::Administration
    component for each
    > whiteboard tag you want to convert.
    >
    > 2. The bug's description should have the old keyword, the new
    keyword you
    > want to replace it with, and the description of this new keyword
    which will
    > appear in the online help.
    >
    > 3. Make sure your keyword doesn't conflict with existing
    keywords, so be
    > prepared to rename it. If your keyword is semantically similar to an
    > existing keyword or other existing bugzilla field we'll talk you
    about a
    > mass change to your bugs.
    >
    > 4. Make the parent bug,
    https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1279022,
    > depend on your new bug.
    >
    > 5. CC Emma Humphries on the bug
    >
    > We will turn your whiteboard tag into a keyword and remove your
    old tag
    > from the whiteboard tags, so make sure your dashboards and other
    tools that
    > consume Bugzilla's API are updated to account for this.
    >
    > Please submit your whiteboard fields to convert by Friday 24
    June 2016.
    >
    > Cheers,
    >
    > Emma Humphries
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