Emma,

> it's not a indexed field or a real tag system, making it hard to parse,
search, and update.

Could we dig into details a little more here?  I assume we could add a
database index for the whiteboard field if performance is an issue.
Do we give keywords an enum value or something (so bugzilla can
index/search them faster)?  I'm not clear on what a "real tag system" means
concretely here.

thanks!

Jason

On Wed, Jun 8, 2016 at 3:29 PM, Emma Humphries <e...@mozilla.com> wrote:

> There is a ticket for a "proper" tag system,
> https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1266609 which given time, I'd
> like to get implemented, but with limited resources, this is what I can do
> now.
>
> On Wed, Jun 8, 2016 at 2:08 PM, Patrick McManus <pmcma...@mozilla.com>
> wrote:
>
> > as you note the whiteboard tags are permissionless. That's their killer
> > property. Keywords as you note are not, that's their critical weakness.
> >
> > instead of fixing that situation in the "long term" can we please fix
> that
> > as a precondition of converting things? Mozilla doesn't need more
> > centralized systems. If they can't be 100% automated to be permissionless
> > (e.g. perhaps because they don't scale) then the new arrangement of
> things
> > is definitely worse.
> >
> > I'll note that even for triage, our eventual system evolved rapidly and
> > putting an administrator in the middle to add and drop keywords and
> > indicies would have just slowed stuff down. Permissionless to me is a
> > requirement.
> >
> >
> > On Wed, Jun 8, 2016 at 2:43 PM, Kartikaya Gupta <kgu...@mozilla.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> >> What happens after June 24? Is the whiteboard field going to be removed?
> >>
> >> On Wed, Jun 8, 2016 at 4:32 PM, Emma Humphries <e...@mozilla.com>
> wrote:
> >> > tl;dr -- nominate whiteboard tags you want converted to keywords. Do
> it
> >> by
> >> > 24 June 2016.
> >> >
> >> > We have a love-hate relationship with the whiteboard field in
> bugzilla.
> >> On
> >> > one hand, we can add team-specific meta data to a bug. On the other
> >> hand,
> >> > it's not a indexed field or a real tag system, making it hard to
> parse,
> >> > search, and update.
> >> >
> >> > But creating keywords is a hassle since you have to request them.
> >> >
> >> > The long term solution is to turn whiteboard into proper tag system,
> but
> >> > the Bugzilla Team's offering to help with some bulk conversion of
> >> > whiteboard tags your teams use into keywords.
> >> >
> >> > To participate:
> >> >
> >> > 1. Create a Bug in the bugzilla.mozilla.org::Administration component
> >> for each
> >> > whiteboard tag you want to convert.
> >> >
> >> > 2. The bug's description should have the old keyword, the new keyword
> >> you
> >> > want to replace it with, and the description of this new keyword which
> >> will
> >> > appear in the online help.
> >> >
> >> > 3. Make sure your keyword doesn't conflict with existing keywords, so
> be
> >> > prepared to rename it. If your keyword is semantically similar to an
> >> > existing keyword or other existing bugzilla field we'll talk you
> about a
> >> > mass change to your bugs.
> >> >
> >> > 4. Make the parent bug,
> >> https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1279022,
> >> > depend on your new bug.
> >> >
> >> > 5. CC Emma Humphries on the bug
> >> >
> >> > We will turn your whiteboard tag into a keyword and remove your old
> tag
> >> > from the whiteboard tags, so make sure your dashboards and other tools
> >> that
> >> > consume Bugzilla's API are updated to account for this.
> >> >
> >> > Please submit your whiteboard fields to convert by Friday 24 June
> 2016.
> >> >
> >> > Cheers,
> >> >
> >> > Emma Humphries
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