The whiteboard field a text blob with no rules, only conventions on
separators (which are not used consistently.) If you misspell a tag,
there's no prompt to correct (unless the browser or os spell checker
recognizes it) and you can get inconsistencies that way.

As for "real tagging system" look, for instance, at Wordpress' tagging
system or Live Journal's before that.

-- Emma

On Wed, Jun 8, 2016 at 4:03 PM, Jason Duell <jdu...@mozilla.com> wrote:

> Emma,
>
> > it's not a indexed field or a real tag system, making it hard to parse,
> search, and update.
>
> Could we dig into details a little more here?  I assume we could add a
> database index for the whiteboard field if performance is an issue.
> Do we give keywords an enum value or something (so bugzilla can
> index/search them faster)?  I'm not clear on what a "real tag system" means
> concretely here.
>
> thanks!
>
> Jason
>
> On Wed, Jun 8, 2016 at 3:29 PM, Emma Humphries <e...@mozilla.com> wrote:
>
>> There is a ticket for a "proper" tag system,
>> https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1266609 which given time,
>> I'd
>> like to get implemented, but with limited resources, this is what I can do
>> now.
>>
>> On Wed, Jun 8, 2016 at 2:08 PM, Patrick McManus <pmcma...@mozilla.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> > as you note the whiteboard tags are permissionless. That's their killer
>> > property. Keywords as you note are not, that's their critical weakness.
>> >
>> > instead of fixing that situation in the "long term" can we please fix
>> that
>> > as a precondition of converting things? Mozilla doesn't need more
>> > centralized systems. If they can't be 100% automated to be
>> permissionless
>> > (e.g. perhaps because they don't scale) then the new arrangement of
>> things
>> > is definitely worse.
>> >
>> > I'll note that even for triage, our eventual system evolved rapidly and
>> > putting an administrator in the middle to add and drop keywords and
>> > indicies would have just slowed stuff down. Permissionless to me is a
>> > requirement.
>> >
>> >
>> > On Wed, Jun 8, 2016 at 2:43 PM, Kartikaya Gupta <kgu...@mozilla.com>
>> > wrote:
>> >
>> >> What happens after June 24? Is the whiteboard field going to be
>> removed?
>> >>
>> >> On Wed, Jun 8, 2016 at 4:32 PM, Emma Humphries <e...@mozilla.com>
>> wrote:
>> >> > tl;dr -- nominate whiteboard tags you want converted to keywords. Do
>> it
>> >> by
>> >> > 24 June 2016.
>> >> >
>> >> > We have a love-hate relationship with the whiteboard field in
>> bugzilla.
>> >> On
>> >> > one hand, we can add team-specific meta data to a bug. On the other
>> >> hand,
>> >> > it's not a indexed field or a real tag system, making it hard to
>> parse,
>> >> > search, and update.
>> >> >
>> >> > But creating keywords is a hassle since you have to request them.
>> >> >
>> >> > The long term solution is to turn whiteboard into proper tag system,
>> but
>> >> > the Bugzilla Team's offering to help with some bulk conversion of
>> >> > whiteboard tags your teams use into keywords.
>> >> >
>> >> > To participate:
>> >> >
>> >> > 1. Create a Bug in the bugzilla.mozilla.org::Administration
>> component
>> >> for each
>> >> > whiteboard tag you want to convert.
>> >> >
>> >> > 2. The bug's description should have the old keyword, the new keyword
>> >> you
>> >> > want to replace it with, and the description of this new keyword
>> which
>> >> will
>> >> > appear in the online help.
>> >> >
>> >> > 3. Make sure your keyword doesn't conflict with existing keywords,
>> so be
>> >> > prepared to rename it. If your keyword is semantically similar to an
>> >> > existing keyword or other existing bugzilla field we'll talk you
>> about a
>> >> > mass change to your bugs.
>> >> >
>> >> > 4. Make the parent bug,
>> >> https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1279022,
>> >> > depend on your new bug.
>> >> >
>> >> > 5. CC Emma Humphries on the bug
>> >> >
>> >> > We will turn your whiteboard tag into a keyword and remove your old
>> tag
>> >> > from the whiteboard tags, so make sure your dashboards and other
>> tools
>> >> that
>> >> > consume Bugzilla's API are updated to account for this.
>> >> >
>> >> > Please submit your whiteboard fields to convert by Friday 24 June
>> 2016.
>> >> >
>> >> > Cheers,
>> >> >
>> >> > Emma Humphries
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>
> Jason
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