On 2015-04-21 12:20 PM, Eric Rescorla wrote:
On Tue, Apr 21, 2015 at 12:14 PM, Ms2ger <ms2...@gmail.com> wrote:
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On 04/21/2015 06:07 PM, Eric Rescorla wrote:
On Tue, Apr 21, 2015 at 8:39 AM, <jmath...@mozilla.com> wrote:
On Tuesday, April 21, 2015 at 3:03:37 AM UTC-5, Gabriele Svelto
wrote:
On 21/04/2015 08:25, Gabor Krizsanits wrote:
Maybe because I usually work on core, and such confidence is
hard to
reach
there, but I'd like to think at least a try run that check if
the patch builds on all platform and a full test run on at
least one platform is
not
too much sacrifice of ones time.
Personally I think that "my time" is cheaper than "everyone's
time".
It is
slow. It is annoying, but holding up ALL the other
patches/developers
is
expensive hence a risky option. So I suggest everyone to be
very conservative about that confident feeling.
I agree; since I work mostly on patches that are relevant for
FxOS/B2G I always run a try build across all architectures
before to ensure it doesn't break anything else. Somehow I was
under the impression that everybody did that.
Gabriele
I think this should be standard procedure for anyone working on
platform. A push to try for a base set of builds (mac, linux,
win, b2g ics) plus a good set of tests (usually for me it's
mochitests) covers things. Once those mostly complete I can mark
the bug with check-needed and walk away, tree drivers will handle
the landing when inbound is open and green.
Isn't the point of inbound supposed to be that it's safe to land
even without 100% confidence? Here's the guidance from the Wiki:
"without 100%" doesn't mean "with 10%", which is what it feel like
nowadays. Tryserver time is machine time; inbound bustage is people
time, and the latter is much more expensive.
I agree that it shouldn't be 10%. Hopefully once we have the autolander
this will be a non-issue.
It would be a huge help if someone made a little tool which would show
you how often one specific person breaks inbound. I would definitely
like to know whether I'm closer to 10% or 100% myself.
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