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On 04/21/2015 06:07 PM, Eric Rescorla wrote:
> On Tue, Apr 21, 2015 at 8:39 AM, <jmath...@mozilla.com> wrote:
> 
>> On Tuesday, April 21, 2015 at 3:03:37 AM UTC-5, Gabriele Svelto
>> wrote:
>>> On 21/04/2015 08:25, Gabor Krizsanits wrote:
>>>> Maybe because I usually work on core, and such confidence is
>>>> hard to
>> reach
>>>> there, but I'd like to think at least a try run that check if
>>>> the patch builds on all platform and a full test run on at
>>>> least one platform is
>> not
>>>> too much sacrifice of ones time.
>>>> 
>>>> Personally I think that "my time" is cheaper than "everyone's
>>>> time".
>> It is
>>>> slow. It is annoying, but holding up ALL the other
>>>> patches/developers
>> is
>>>> expensive hence a risky option. So I suggest everyone to be
>>>> very conservative about that confident feeling.
>>> 
>>> I agree; since I work mostly on patches that are relevant for
>>> FxOS/B2G I always run a try build across all architectures
>>> before to ensure it doesn't break anything else. Somehow I was
>>> under the impression that everybody did that.
>>> 
>>> Gabriele
>> 
>> I think this should be standard procedure for anyone working on
>> platform. A push to try for a base set of builds (mac, linux,
>> win, b2g ics) plus a good set of tests (usually for me it's
>> mochitests) covers things. Once those mostly complete I can mark
>> the bug with check-needed and walk away, tree drivers will handle
>> the landing when inbound is open and green.
> 
> 
> Isn't the point of inbound supposed to be that it's safe to land
> even without 100% confidence? Here's the guidance from the Wiki:

"without 100%" doesn't mean "with 10%", which is what it feel like
nowadays. Tryserver time is machine time; inbound bustage is people
time, and the latter is much more expensive.

Ms2ger

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