Greg Wooledge wrote: > On Thu, Sep 26, 2019 at 05:08:26PM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: >> On Thursday 26 September 2019 16:44:01 Greg Wooledge wrote: >> >> > On Thu, Sep 26, 2019 at 04:42:15PM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: >> > > And here I am, to announce that my wintel boxes will only be updated >> > > to stretch because there is not a buster compatible LCNC available >> > > yet. That I suspect will be a while as switching to python-3.7, and >> > > to wayland will take some time for our limited manpower. Too many >> > > changes, too fast. Not poiinting fingers, just facts our people >> > > will have to code around. >> > >> > I don't know much about python, but you definitely don't have to run >> > Wayland, if you don't want to. Lots and lots of us don't. >> >> Since it seems to be installed by default, how does one go about >> expunging it? > > It's not. > > The only time you get Wayland installed during the normal Debian > installation is if you select to install Gnome, either explicitly, or > by selecting to install a Desktop Environment and then not specifying > which one you want. > > If you just install "Standard", and un-check "Desktop Environment" and > all of its sub-choices, you don't get X or Wayland or any of that stuff. > After that, you can install "xorg" to get the X server, fonts, libraries, > and core utilities, plus a window manager (or Desktop Environment) > package of your choice. Maybe a terminal emulator, if you aren't a huge > fan of xterm. Then you're all set. > > The advantage of doing it THIS way is that you get a chance to install > firmware, microcode, video drivers, etc. before some dumb-ass policy > decision tries to launch a Display Manager before you've had a chance to > make X work. (Yeah, yeah, you could in theory interact with the GRUB menu > and force Debian to boot in multi-user.target instead of graphical.target. > And, hey, you might actually *have* to, if the unconfigured X + Display > Manager combo locks up your hardware badly enough.) > > Or, you can select a Desktop Environment other than Gnome during the > installation. You still end up facing the firmware/etc. issues, but at > least Wayland won't be installed, and EVEN BETTER STILL, Gnome will not > be installed! Rejoice! > > There are lots and lots of choices. Almost none of them give you > Wayland.
+1 here always install minimal debian and whatever you need on top.
