On Wednesday 25 September 2019 13:39:04 Greg Wooledge wrote:

> On Wed, Sep 25, 2019 at 01:35:39PM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote:
> > Buster runs fine, IF it can find its keyboard and mouse. But ssh
> > doesn't want to run until the random number generator is seeded, and
> > without a keyboard, it doesn't get seeded. It will sit there and
> > answer a ping for half an hour, but that doesn't seed it so life can
> > go on. So you take the drive to another machine, ask some questions
> > on the lists and maybe fix it, and maybe not...
>
> https://www.debian.org/releases/buster/amd64/release-notes/ch-informat
>ion.en.html#entropy-starvation
>
This looks like a printout should be in hand by the time the first reboot 
is done.

It also tells me that not near enough debugging went into pre-release 
testing, as this is stuff that should have been found and fixed before 
the official release. 

I bailed out on fedora at about f2, tired to being an unpaid lab rat, 
always down with a tummy ache or 19. Now, I assume from lack of paid 
people, debian is doing the same. But the definition of stable seems 
more and more loosely defined in all camps as everyone scrambles to stay 
current with Pottering who runs at his own speed with little 
consideration for some who actually want to get /their/ job done.  

> https://wiki.debian.org/BoottimeEntropyStarvation

Neither of these links adresses the 2 main problems, wrong networking 
setup after the first reboot (see ip r) if you are running a static 
network defined in each machines /etc/host files, and only fixable by 
removing avahi-daemon and dhcpdc, else any routes you assign are 
overridden by 169.254 addesses and you can't get out of your local net 
block.

> There is no simple fix for this one, I'm afraid.  If you try one or
> more of the suggestions from the wiki, let us know which one(s) and
> how well they worked for you.  That might help other people in the
> future.

But why do such reports NOT result in a newer installer that fixes them? 
Linux in general is widely famous for fixing serious bugs in very short 
order, and IMO these (no network, no keyboard/mouse) are serious bugs.

Cheers, Gene Heskett
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