On Thu, Sep 26, 2019 at 05:08:26PM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote:
> On Thursday 26 September 2019 16:44:01 Greg Wooledge wrote:
> 
> > On Thu, Sep 26, 2019 at 04:42:15PM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote:
> > > And here I am, to announce that my wintel boxes will only be updated
> > > to stretch because there is not a buster compatible LCNC available
> > > yet. That I suspect will be a while as switching to python-3.7, and
> > > to wayland will take some time for our limited manpower.  Too many
> > > changes, too fast.  Not poiinting fingers, just facts our people
> > > will have to code around.
> >
> > I don't know much about python, but you definitely don't have to run
> > Wayland, if you don't want to.  Lots and lots of us don't.
> 
> Since it seems to be installed  by default, how does one go about 
> expunging it?

It's not.

The only time you get Wayland installed during the normal Debian
installation is if you select to install Gnome, either explicitly, or
by selecting to install a Desktop Environment and then not specifying
which one you want.

If you just install "Standard", and un-check "Desktop Environment" and
all of its sub-choices, you don't get X or Wayland or any of that stuff.
After that, you can install "xorg" to get the X server, fonts, libraries,
and core utilities, plus a window manager (or Desktop Environment)
package of your choice.  Maybe a terminal emulator, if you aren't a huge
fan of xterm.  Then you're all set.

The advantage of doing it THIS way is that you get a chance to install
firmware, microcode, video drivers, etc. before some dumb-ass policy
decision tries to launch a Display Manager before you've had a chance to
make X work.  (Yeah, yeah, you could in theory interact with the GRUB menu
and force Debian to boot in multi-user.target instead of graphical.target.
And, hey, you might actually *have* to, if the unconfigured X + Display
Manager combo locks up your hardware badly enough.)

Or, you can select a Desktop Environment other than Gnome during the
installation.  You still end up facing the firmware/etc. issues, but at
least Wayland won't be installed, and EVEN BETTER STILL, Gnome will not
be installed!  Rejoice!

There are lots and lots of choices.  Almost none of them give you
Wayland.

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