On Mon 19/Aug/2019 03:15:45 +0200 Celejar wrote: > I think terming Google's decision to call software that doesn't > implement OAuth "less secure" "evil" is hyperbole that doesn't help our > broader cause of opposing its breaking of standards, imposing various > sorts of lock-in, invasions of privacy, etc.
Breaking of standards? Not sure about the web, but for email protocols Google counts many active participants and gmail is often among the early adopters (e.g. ARC). On the other hand, I am perplexed when I see epic personalities of IETF standard making, like Brian Carpenter, Dave Crocket, and many other, preferably use gmail addresses. Most of them used to prefer sending from their own mail servers. Obviously, they find gmail more convenient... Of course, protocols will be useless when there will be just one or two providers. Even John Klensin, the author of ESMTP, although he uses his own domain for sending mail through Exim, uses outlook.com for incoming MX. Presumably, that's more convenient than maintaining efficient anti-virus and anti-spam. Notably, as an SMTP purist, John deploys neither SPF nor DKIM. At this point I realize this message is not so off-topic as I had figured when I hit the reply button. So, let me mention I'm also still running my own server. I use Courier-MTA, which integrates SMTP and IMAP with maildrop (delivery agent and mail filter) and a plethora of utilities. Of course, I recommend it. jm2c Ale