First of all, I wish to thank all of you who shared their experience. Be reassured I am taking any constructive suggestion into serious account and exploring more.
Then: On Fri, Aug 16, 2019 at 2:03 AM Celejar <cele...@gmail.com> wrote: > > On Wed, 14 Aug 2019 16:24:49 +000 > loredana <llcf...@gmail.com> wrote: > > secure applications, this is likely not to be a viable solution (it > > seems that google is going to forbit less secure application access > > starting November first of this year and it is already a pain to use > > it now). > > What is your source for Google's plans, and how is it already a pain? I am following the google development on this issue, but I got the date from the mu4e mailing list. I'l post the link, if I can find it again (remember, I am almost blind and even replying to email is, at the moment, really slow and difficult). > have been using getmail and sylpheed with several Google mail accounts > for years, and it seemed pretty straightforward - just set the "allow > less secure apps" option, and then configure POP3 / SMTP normally. In the email that started this thread, I tried to make clear that this is something happening "now". I use the internet for crossing oceans quickly since bitnet and I remember whet google was born as google."org". I am myself a long term gmail user and this is why I carefully look after main changes. The way email clients will authenticate to gmail is drfinitely one of them and is going to affect us for sure. I may be able to be more responsive once I find a good way of avoiding webmail. Meanwhile, here is the best I could find toward a possible solution that may help avoid the OAUTH2 authorization issue by complying with it. You need debian buster as a minimum, then look at the gmailieer package. It seems to be oauth2 enabled and therefore be able to access gmail and possibly other mail providers. I still have to test it. If you try it, be careful because it requires notmuch and notmuch is in the less secure apps list, so you have to allow less secure apps first, I guess, and hopefully be able to set it off/on as you like again (if you can, this will probably get a feeling about the pain ...). gmailieer is GPLv3+ and in debian. IMHO this these are two good things. The debian package page: https://packages.debian.org/search?keywords=gmailieer It seems that mbsync (isink) is on itw long way to become OAUTH2 enableb, too, as possibly other applications. It is a matter of timen and the free software community will catch up, as usual. I don't think the authentication issue is going to affect webmail users for a while. Loredana
