But still, since systemd was the default, a tendency in choosing the
default plays such a major role that you may even not realize. A systematic
research involving default effect is here:
Isaac Dinner et. al., 2011, Partitioning Default Effects: Why People Choose
Not to Choose, J of Experimental Psychology
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On Thu, Sep 25, 2014 at 10:42 PM, Rob Owens <row...@ptd.net> wrote:
> ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Steve Litt" <sl...@troubleshooters.com>
> >
> > On Wed, 24 Sep 2014 13:13:51 -0400 (EDT)
> > Rob Owens <row...@ptd.net> wrote:
> >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: "The Wanderer" <wande...@fastmail.fm>
> > > >
> > > > On 09/22/2014 at 06:54 AM, Darac Marjal wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Those are votes for Debian, but not for systemd, or for "Debian with
> > > > systemd as central".
> > > >
> > > > In the case at hand, the latter two are what people are asking to be
> > > > able to have a vote (or at least meaningful input other than making
> > > > noise) on, by virtue of being users who will be affected by the
> > > > decision rather than by virtue of doing work to implement the
> > > > decision.
> > >
> > > I think the best voting method at this time is popularity-contest.
> > > Make sure you have PARTICIPATE set to "yes".
> > >
> > > Of course the vote is stacked somewhat in favor of systemd-sysv,
> > > since it is the default and in some cases unavoidable due to
> > > dependencies of desktop software. So all of the "systemd-sysv" votes
> > > in popularity-contest represent either:
> > >
> > > 1) people who prefer systemd-sysv
> > > 2) people who got systemd-sysv as a result of dependencies of
> > > installing a package that they really do want 3) people who don't
> > > care enough to switch away from the default, or 4) people who aren't
> > > aware of the options, don't know what an init system is, etc.
> > >
> > > -Rob
> >
> > That's not really a true choice. There are a lot of other init programs
> > out there, any one of which could be voted for. There's the position
> > "let's wait until we have a good init to move to", which is very
> > different from "let's use sysvinit". There's no place to write in an
> > "other".
> >
> Steve,
>
> Popularity-contest simply keeps track of what packages are installed on a
> user's system. So unless you install an init system from source, your
> "vote" would be counted. (To be clear, I'm not sure if it would be counted
> if you installed a third-party package).
>
> I agree that "let's wait until we have a good init to move to" should have
> been more seriously considered, but for some reason people were in a big
> hurry to make a move.
>
> Anyway, 'dpkg-reconfigure popularity-contest' to make sure it's enabled.
>
> -Rob
>
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