Hi,
>From a casual perusal of the lists systemd, seems to be getting a
reputation as one of the those projects to avoid like pulse-audio and mono,
but the link you sent sounds more reasonable. Is there a good balanced
discussion anywhere?
James


On 20 November 2013 10:00, Zenaan Harkness <z...@freedbms.net> wrote:

> On 11/20/13, Ralf Mardorf <ralf.mard...@alice-dsl.net> wrote:
> > On Wed, 2013-11-20 at 09:08 +0100, Slavko wrote:
> >> Please, how useful are Arch's things for me as Debian user?
> >
> > My apologies Slavko, I'll rephrase it, the state of Debian's testing
> > initscripts/systemd seems to be neither fish nor fowl. When I
> > experienced this on Arch Linux during the transition from initscripts to
> > systemd, I didn't use it for perhaps 1 year and then, when the
> > transition was finished, there wasn't the choice to use initscripts or
> > systemd anymore, I installed a new Arch Linux.
> >
> > Switching from initscripts to systemd was the only transition ever, that
> > caused issues for me and I'm still not friend with systemd.
>
> OK, so Arch transition was handled sub-optimally for you.
>
> > since anything else but the
> > speed of booting is a step in the wrong direction, instead of human
> > readable scripts, one big binary blob, associated with the name Lennart
> > P.. Seriously, systemd is crap,
>
> Ralph, please write a constructive "problem" and not a
> "ad-hominem against software attack" non-argument.
>
> Especially, if you have a personal particular crappiness about
> systemd, which perhaps you disagree about something here:
>
> http://0pointer.de/blog/projects/the-biggest-myths.html
>
> then that would be much more constructive to useful discussion.
>
> Thanks heaps
> Zenaan
>
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