On Sun, 10 Dec 2000 kmself@ix.netcom.com wrote:
> on Sun, Dec 10, 2000 at 07:06:40PM -0500, Jim Kroger ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) > wrote: > > My own comments to this list. > > I'd contact Dr. Kroger by email and phone, and received an apologetic > response from him this afternoon. > > While I do accept his apology, I feel his earlier actions were beyond > the bounds of good taste. > > I think it would also be helpful for the Debian team to review the > factors leading up to this incident. Apparently, Dr. Kroger did > repeatedly try to unsubscribe from the debian-users list over the course > of several weeks, his final outburst was one of frustration. Seeing > that contact address actually do result in contact and response would be > a Good Thing [tm]. > > And a note to other listmembers: public humiliation is not something to > be taken lightly. While I've found it effective in *very rare > instances* in the past, it should be used only in aggregious cases. I'd > checked that the technical origin of the posts attributed to Dr. Kroger > did in fact appear to be posted from a site plausibly associated with > him. I followed up my initial post to him and several colleagues with > one suggesting that the posts may not have been his own doing. Though > it in fact was, it was a gross oversight of my own not to have suggested > this possibility in my original mail. > > Dr. Kroger now has some personal concerns regarding his reputation. I'd > like to suggest that those who've addressed this issue might be willing > to recommend that though his judgement be criticized, drastic > repercussions are not appropriate for his actions, and be willing to > speak on Dr. Kroger's behalf to this end. I've offered to do so myself. > I think most of us have had our own email goofs and can probably relate. > > Finally, please note that this mail is being directed to several > recipients. I'd advise an awareness of this and suggest response > addresses be directed as appropriate. > > Cheers. Stop covering your ass, Kroger made a mistake, but "your" behavior "Karsten Self" was disgusting!
