On 2025-08-14 10:07 -0700, Otto Kekäläinen wrote:

I have now witnessed several cases where a maintainer blatantly
ignored the MRs their package received. It is demotivating to new
aspiring Debian contributors to put in significant effort to learn the
complexities of Debian packaging and submit an improvement, only to
see that the maintainer two months later didn't look at the MR at all,

That's right. I have never looked at an MR in my life.  Anyone wanting
to send in a fix (for which I am always grateful) needs to file a bug
report (and ideally send a patch) otherwise I guarantee I will simply
never see it (or at least not for years). It's not personal - they are
just not using the (very long-standing) process for sending in fixes,
and I consider them to have done a rather poor job of 'putting in
significant effort to learn [about debian packaging processes]'.

It's like sending in your fixes to Whatsapp or Facebook, also
communications channels that I simply do not use.

If these MRs got turned into bugreports automagically that could be
helpful. Listing them on tracker.d.o would also work (eventually).
The suggested tool to just turn the MR feature off (for my packages)
so that the problem doesn't arise sounds ideal.

In the meantime I just don't put most of my packages on Salsa so this
expectation mismatch simply can't occur.

And you do have a talent for somewhat exasperating messages Otto, as
various others have pointed out :-) Please try to remember that we
don't all work the same way, and that using a comms mechanism with
no-one on the other end is likely to result in disappointment.

Wookey
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