On 15/08/2025 16:22, Antoine Le Gonidec wrote:
Le Fri, Aug 15, 2025 at 03:57:29PM +0800, Blair Noctis a écrit :I think you missed something: communications cost.And me having to comply to a disagreeable workflow is free?
No, you are free to drop messages costing you more than you would like. I'm just adding in the point that your requirements might also cost some more than they like, so we can try to find a middle ground based on such knowledge.
(…) And people might consider the handshake to be exactly bureaucracy. While it might not appear as such to you, writing an email is a full blown cognitive load every time for some.No problem here. They have thousands of other packages they can contribute to. Packages that are perfect for people who can’t go through the cognitive load of writing an e-mail but don’t get any from sending merge requests on Salsa. That way I can avoid the cognitive load of dealing with code dumps from unkwown people who think communication is a burden.
See, here's prejudice, to me. You implicitly assume *all* messages without a handshake "code dump", which I guess means low quality. I, for one, try hard to be extensive and clear, i.e. high quality, when composing the initial payload, even if I don't initiate with a handshake (in your way). And I'm totally content if a maintainer recognizes there are good ones but it's hard or tiring to pick them out from the bad ones so they just ignores them all. (Collateral damage?) But it's something totally different outright calling them all bad.
You are of course free to trade off. But I don't like prejudice.(FWIW I'm not pointing fingers. Prejudice itself is all too common in humans and not an individual's fault.)
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,Sdrager
Blair Noctis
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