On 2025-07-17 11:45:44, Antoine Le Gonidec wrote: > Le Wed, Jul 16, 2025 at 07:30:46PM -0400, Roberto C. Sánchez a écrit : > > I have a very hard time understanding how in two adjacent paragraphs you > > can say both "Sexism, racism and such are not, never were, and can not > > be funny." and also "making fun of cis-het white males can be offensive, > > and it’s OK." You sound like a hypocrite. > > > > So, are sexism, racism and such *never* OK, or are they only OK when > > they're directed at whatever group or groups you happen to think it is > > acceptable to oppress? Society has been there before (some group decides > > that another group should be oppressed, marginalized, exploited, > > eradicated, or whatever) and the results were not good. It doesn't make > > sense for you to claim a commitment to non-oppression and then make > > allowance for it at the same time. > > I get where the confusion is coming from. I am indeed saying that > sexism, racism, etc. are never OK. But that jokes targeted at the > dominant group are not racism or sexism. > > There is no such thing, in our current society, as anti-white racism or > anti-male sexism. Because these -ism are about enforcing an oppression, > and there is, by definition, no oppression happening against the > dominant group.
This is the most wrong stance to have on racism and sexism. There can be racism against any person, and sexism against any person. If you say "there can't be racism against X", what you're actually doing is being racist against all X. If we don't want to promote racism, then let's acknowledge that racism itself is bad, not racism against Y. Otherwise you're just trying to switch from racism against Y to racism against X. very surprised, iustin
