On Tuesday 13 May 2014 11:06:10 Russ Allbery wrote: > Thorsten Glaser <t...@mirbsd.de> writes: > > Yes, there were issues with e.g. grub1 to grub2, but do you honestly > > think that sysadmins in a medium-sized company will cope with these? > > > > • no /etc/init.d/$foo (to tabcomplete, no less!) any more > > I've been telling people to stop using this for years. You should stop > using this too, regardless of what init system you're using, since it > doesn't sanitize environment variables. You leak all kinds of crap from > your personal shell environment into the daemon environment that can cause > mysterious and difficult-to-debug problems. > > service foo <action> works across Linux distributions, with or without > systemd, and does the right thing. The big shame with service is that tab completion does not work properly. If I use /etc/init.d/ then tab tells me what is there and spells it right.
David > > > • journal > > With the default systemd configuration on Debian, you won't ever know this > exists unless you use one of the features that takes advantage of it. > There's literally nothing to adjust to, so yes, of course they'll cope. > > > • totally different ways to handle services > > In that way in which what you're doing now continues to work and you can > use the new stuff when you feel like it. > > > • totally different ways to rescue a system that does not boot > > > > cleanly any more > > In that way in which booting from the rescue entry in Grub continues to > work just the way that it does right now. > > > • the init system breaking init scripts hand-written by people > > > > who don’t really know what they’re doing, have not even heard > > of LSB, much less “units” > > This was indeed a more difficult transition... which we already did years > ago when we switched to dependency-based boot. Which did cause people a > fair bit of trouble. But it's now been handled, and systemd is unlikely > to make any remaining issues any worse. > > > I’m *positive* they won’t. > > Good thing most of the problems you're worried about are figments of your > imagination, then, huh? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/3214916.OKkfycKpZM@stargate
